[FF7PC-98] The Reunion (OLD THREAD, SAVED FOR POSTERITY)

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I was hoping the 3rd revision would be a doddle, but it\s actually the hardest when it comes to moving boxes, and also correcting dialogue to sound more natural.  But once this is done, it's pretty much done.  Onwards and upwards.
 
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'Doddle' mean something like the American usage of terms like 'breeze' or 'piece of cake' I take it?

I didn't even think of the box issues when I thought you were in the home stretch. Probably should have considering you had to completely rebuild the menus.

Got no problem with waiting though! Wish I could help, but again, me =/= coding expert. XD
 
'Doddle' mean something like the American usage of terms like 'breeze' or 'piece of cake' I take it?

I didn't even think of the box issues when I thought you were in the home stretch. Probably should have considering you had to completely rebuild the menus.

Got no problem with waiting though! Wish I could help, but again, me =/= coding expert. XD
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Well, you could improve the chocobo race interface...  :-D
The High minigame could need some rework, too.
 
Yeah doddle is same thing thing :P

My mass text changer for "obtained" dialogues did its job... and my other program for moving boxes is working a treat (will release new version soon).  All that's left is to head north, the ....  no... all that's left is for me to make something that can edit the box height, width and actual text at run time... would save me a lot of messing going over the scene twice.  So that's my next task.
 
So will the release have some of the profanity back in the game? I don't mind things like cid's censored swearing but in the PSX release Barret cursed quite a bit, and on the PC version they censored words like shit and I feel like that changed some of the characters a bit.
 
The profanity is limited to how harsh the Japanese is, and the scene in question.  Nearly all swearing in FF7 was meant to be mild (let's be real here, the game was not a 15 or 18  or even 12.).  There are some exceptions.  In the whole game, we used Fuck once (Cid).  I have been very careful not to add in swearing where it is not merited, or where the Japanese did not call for it.  Most references in the original game using $%^%&^ are ridiculous, and usually only "damn" or similar meanings were intended.   Where swearing is used, it is uncensored.

Mild curses are like

Jackass, crap, damn, god damn, hell,

moderate:

Shit, bullshit, asshole (for example), bastard

Strong:

Fuck (1 occurrence).

A common mistake with fan translations is to start placing in silly levels of swearing because it can... and not because it enhances the dialogue.  Using harsher swear words sparingly actually makes their impact all the greater when they do get used.  The use of fuck for example will hit home in the one occasion it is used, and would have no effect at all if it had been plastered all over.  Just like HD graphics and cutscenes, the usage of swear words must come with responsibility and be used to enhance the existing material, not saturate it.
 
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Yeah, you get the sense that the random characters were there for effect more than actual censorship.
 
Minor Question:

Will this be compatible with the 2012 'remake'? I use remake loosely.
 
The re release then. That added all them nifty features, that we really did not need. Such as achievements
 
Call it what you will, the 2012 and Steam versions are still not the 1998 version. This only works with the original 1998 PC release; not the 2012 rerelease, not the Steam release, not the PlayStation version.
 
A common mistake with fan translations is to start placing in silly levels of swearing because it can... and not because it enhances the dialogue.  Using harsher swear words sparingly actually makes their impact all the greater when they do get used.  The use of fuck for example will hit home in the one occasion it is used, and would have no effect at all if it had been plastered all over.  Just like HD graphics and cutscenes, the usage of swear words must come with responsibility and be used to enhance the existing material, not saturate it.
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This is pretty much exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks for clearing that up.

It came to mind after looking up videos of the PSX version where I noticed Barret say "shi't" instead of $%&#
 
My program BoxFF7 is virtually complete, and so work has now begun to go through entire game positioning boxes and sorting the dialogue for the 3rd and final revision.  So far I am up to the Last Train.  It's going to be weeks before this is done most likely. The sheer volume of work is unbelievable, and tedious.  Without the program I made, it would be virtually impossible to sort the boxes.
 
My program BoxFF7 is virtually complete, and so work has now begun to go through entire game positioning boxes and sorting the dialogue for the 3rd and final revision.  So far I am up to the Last Train.  It's going to be weeks before this is done most likely. The sheer volume of work is unbelievable, and tedious.  Without the program I made, it would be virtually impossible to sort the boxes.
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Oh, that's great to hear! I mean, that the program is almost done, not the work.
 
It is done now :)  And released. Just gonna be the odd bug that crops up.
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Oh! You still gotta go through the re-positioning and revisioning though. Making the program actually went faster than I was expecting. XD
 
Let's have a comparison

Old
{VINCENT}
“{CID}…I wish I had your
   go-get-them attitude.”{NEW}
“It appears my feelings vanished
   into thin air ever since
   my long slumber….”
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{VINCENT}
“…Don't expect me to do anything
   other than fight beside you.”{NEW}
“I have no words of comfort.”{NEW}
“Of course, I don't believe you're
   the type who needs the kindness
   from others…”

New
{VINCENT}
“{CID}… I envy your
  burning passion.”{NEW}
“My capacity for emotion melted
  away during the long slumber….”
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{VINCENT}
“Do not expect anything
  from me outside of combat.”{NEW}
“I know no words of gratitude.”{NEW}[I will check if this is comfort too]
“But then,you do not look like
  one who relies on the kindness
  of others…”
 
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