[PSX] Dialogue/Events editor - Hack7 (v3 BETA 3)

crushilista · Nov 11, 2010

Thanks for the hard work and dedication friend. I will try this right away. Luck to you in the future.

Kranmer · Nov 14, 2010

I tested version 2.1.1 on Xubuntu with Wine +WineTricks and DotNet installed and it seems to work great so thanks for that lasyan (i took the picture the other day but i haven't been around the last few days so that's why i was using the old version), so anyone on linux should be able to run this through wine.

lasyan3 · Nov 14, 2010

This is a great news

! Thanks kranmer!

crushilista · Nov 15, 2010

The only thing that would make this better would be to be able to see how the text would look ingame.

sutebenu · Apr 20, 2011

I'm actually having some difficulties in using this.
I have downloaded it, opened the Field directory and even created an .ISO file of the disc to use with the dialogue editor and though the locations show up, when I click on one of them nothing shows up on the Messages window, it is entirely grayed out.

Am I doing something wrong? I had tried to look for an faq but no one else seems to be having the same problem as me so I am positive it is something I did/didn't do.

lasyan3 · Apr 28, 2011

Hi,

First question, do you try to open the Field folder from the iso, or do you first make a copy of it on your hard disk drive ?

lasyan3 · Jun 7, 2011

Time for an upate, finally I release a new version of Hack7 with the event interpreter back !

hotdog963al · Jun 11, 2011

Time for an upate, finally I release a new version of Hack7 with the event interpreter back !

Wha-hey, don't need to keep the old version now.

You are a hero!

Armorvil · Jun 11, 2011

Amazing, I've been eagerly waiting for this

I tried it for a bit, and I have a couple questions. I'm interested in triggering new battles, and making some random NPCs give gil, items and materia to the party. So I've been looking at how those things are handled inside of Hack7. I found these :

- To initiate a battle :

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BattleStart( XXX );

*XXX is the Formation ID in decimals. With Proud Clod, it's easy to trigger any battle you like, since you can easily convert the right Formation ID in decimals, and add this line.

First question :
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/*AKAO [0xF2]( 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x29, 0x40, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 )*/;

What are these lines of code for ? Are they important to add, when initiating a battle ?

- To add materia to the inventory :

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MateriaAdd( Materia.Restore, 0, 0, 0 );

The three 0s are for the materia's amount of AP.
Here is my second question : is Hack7 clever enough to add a Bahamut materia to the inventory, if I type "MateriaAdd( Materia.Bahamut, 0, 0, 0 );" instead ? If yes, I don't know how you managed to make your program turn real words into bytes, but you rock.

- To add gil to the inventory :

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AddGils( XXX );

This one is easy enough. One only has to type the amount of gil instead of my XXX.

- To add an item to the inventory :

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ItemAdd( Item.ItemPotion, X );

X being the amount of items.
This one is confusing. Do one always has to attach "Item" to the item name ? Like :

ItemAdd( Item.ItemTurbo Ether, 1 ); ?

Also, since spaces seem to be important, with names that have a space like Turbo Ether, won't there be any problem ?

Final question, regarding the sounds played. In Hack7, whether you hear the materia or the item sound, the code line is always the same :

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PlaySound( 360, 64 );

But we know that when you obtain a materia, the sound you hear is different from the one that plays when you obtain an item. In Meteor or Makou Reactor (Field editors for the PC version), the play sound calls a different byte to reflect this. So, what gives ?

...I'll eventually answer my own questions through testing if you don't have time to reply, though. But needless to say, it would save your compatriot a lot of time ^^

EDIT:

Just answered one of my questions : there are no spaces inside item names. For example, when you dig the Bahamut ZERO materia in Bone village, the code is :

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MateriaAdd( Materia.BahamutZERO, 0, 0, 0 );

I also checked the sleeping man's code, and I understand the need to add the "item" particle in front of the names, now. When he hands you the Bolt Ring, the script is :

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ItemAdd( Item.AccessorieBoltRing, 1 );

So, I guess that Item.AccessoryBoltRing wouldn't work - I bet one would have to add the typo for the line of code to work

For armors and weapons, is it Item.ArmorMystile and Item.WeaponWizerStaff ?

lasyan3 · Jun 12, 2011

Code:
First question :
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/*AKAO [0xF2]( 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x29, 0x40, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 )*/;

What are these lines of code for ? Are they important to add, when initiating a battle ?

When you find a line of the form /*NAME [HEX_VALUE] (HEX_VALUE, HEX_VALUE, ...)*/;, it means that the command is not yet fully decrypted (either in the qhimm wiki, either I didn't understand it :-[). But one can still change the HEX_VALUE to make some test, it will be saved.
So I can't tell you if there is some connection between this command "AKAO" and the battles... I think AKAO is linked with sounds, but I'm not sure of anything...

Here is my second question : is Hack7 clever enough to add a Bahamut materia to the inventory, if I type "MateriaAdd( Materia.Bahamut, 0, 0, 0 );" instead ? If yes, I don't know how you managed to make your program turn real words into bytes, but you rock.

I think you probably noticed that when you write "Materia" followed by the dot, a kind of autolist will popup, letting you choose the materia you want.
To fully understand how it works, you should read this short article about C# enums. One of my main goal when working on the new field events interpreter, was to make editing as simple as possible, which means to avoid byte values when possible. So I used this "enums technique" which make the selection of items, materias, field maps and so on much easier. Glad that you like it

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ItemAdd( Item.ItemPotion, X );

This one is confusing. Do one always has to attach "Item" to the item name ? Like :
ItemAdd( Item.ItemTurbo Ether, 1 ); ?

So, I guess that Item.AccessoryBoltRing wouldn't work - I bet one would have to add the typo for the line of code to work
For armors and weapons, is it Item.ArmorMystile and Item.WeaponWizerStaff ?

Yes, it's because "Item." is the type of the parameter of the command "ItemAdd", and ItemTurboEther is the value selected for this parameter.
The case of items is special, because there are many many items : basic items (potions, ethers...), armors, accessories and weapons for cloud, aerith, etc. So I added equivalent "subtype" names to clearly separate all kind of items. But you don't need to "guess" the name of the item/materia/etc. you want to add. Just write the type ("Materia", "Item", etc.) followed by the dot, and the autolist will show you all the possible values you can use.
Note: in the current version, the autolist doesn't filter the values with what you write, it only select the value based on the first caracters you write. So if you write for example "Materia.Baha", it will positions itself on the "Bahamut" value. The next version of Hack7 will introduce a better mechanism : when you will write "Materia.Baha", it will show you the 3 materias (bahamut, neobahamut and zero). It will also be case insensitive.

But we know that when you obtain a materia, the sound you hear is different from the one that plays when you obtain an item. In Meteor or Makou Reactor (Field editors for the PC version), the play sound calls a different byte to reflect this. So, what gives ?

This is strange, because in the PSX version the parameters of the sound command for the potions in the first screen of the game, and the materia restore in the reactor, are the same. Maybe the sounds are stored in the field files in the PSX version, while they are in a common place for the PC version...

Armorvil · Jun 12, 2011

When you find a line of the form /*NAME [HEX_VALUE] (HEX_VALUE, HEX_VALUE, ...)*/;, it means that the command is not yet fully decrypted (either in the qhimm wiki, either I didn't understand it :-[). But one can still change the HEX_VALUE to make some test, it will be saved.
So I can't tell you if there is some connection between this command "AKAO" and the battles... I think AKAO is linked with sounds, but I'm not sure of anything...

I see, thanks. Yeah, Akao was the sound programmer IIRC.

I think you probably noticed that when you write "Materia" followed by the dot, a kind of autolist will popup, letting you choose the materia you want.
To fully understand how it works, you should read this short article about C# enums. One of my main goal when working on the new field events interpreter, was to make editing as simple as possible, which means to avoid byte values when possible. So I used this "enums technique" which make the selection of items, materias, field maps and so on much easier. Glad that you like it .

This is awesome. I just tried it, and yes, the list of items/materias display

I'd just have a small request though : would it be possible to add the blank spots following the Guide Book in the item list, and the various blank spots in the materia list ? Since one can use WallMarket to create new materias/items, it would allow the modder to insert these in the field script.

Since you organised the materias alphabetically, I could see Materia#22, #38, #45, #46, #47, #63, #66, #67, #91, #92, #93, #94, and #95 being all either at the top of the list, or at the bottom.

This is strange, because in the PSX version the parameters of the sound command for the potions in the first screen of the game, and the materia restore in the reactor, are the same. Maybe the sounds are stored in the field files in the PSX version, while they are in a common place for the PC version...

Ah yes, that would explain it. Thanks for the reply

EDIT:

For those who would want NPCs to hand items/gils/initiate a battle/trigger a shop/trigger a save screen/whatever : instead of taking the risk to use variables that might be used for something else, there is this code :

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TalkSet( false );

Inserting it after the message / ItemAdd code will ensure that you won't be able to talk to the NPC again and thus, get the item again

And to trigger a shop/the PHS/the save screen, the code is :

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ShowMenu( MenuType.Shop, X );

X being the shop ID in decimals. You can use Titeguy3's WhiteChoco and count the shops to get the right ID (first one is 0). After typing the dot, a list will come up allowing you to choose what kind of menu will pop up.

Really brilliant. Lasyan3, do you have plans to make Hack7 compatible with FFVII PC ?... ...Also, it would be great if clicking on the message ID (in the message tab) would instantly point you to the Event script that calls said message. For example, if you wanted to edit the event regarding the bald guy in Sector7 who whines that Johnny's gone, you could click on its message (or its ID, which is 073), and the program would directly lead you to E28: oyaji1 S1 "OnTalk" in the Events tab. Right now, it's sometimes a pain to find the event you're looking for.

lasyan3 · Jun 12, 2011

Also, it would be great if clicking on the message ID (in the message tab) would instantly point you to the Event script that calls said message. For example, if you wanted to edit the event regarding the bald guy in Sector7 who whines that Johnny's gone, you could click on its message (or its ID, which is 073), and the program would directly lead you to E28: oyaji1 S1 "OnTalk" in the Events tab. Right now, it's sometimes a pain to find the event you're looking for.

I will see what I can do

. You're right, the tool is missing a search feature.

Armorvil · Jun 12, 2011

I have a problem, but it looks like it's not related to Hack7, as I have the same problem with Makou Reactor. I made a few changes, and decided to make the save screen appear in the GI cave, just after Bugen says "We're almost there". Problem is, Hack7 won't let me save. It displays this error message :

http://imageshack.us/f/845/image2zl.jpg/

As for Makou Reactor, it just crashes. The thing is, I could save this same change in the PC version without any problem. Is it because it calculated that the Field folder grew in size and wouldn't fit into the ISO anymore ? I'm also aware that my code might be faulty inside Hack7 (I'm not sure about the "1" as a value after MenuType.SaveScreen), but it also crashes when I write it some other way.

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Never mind, it saves now. Apparently, the correct line was :
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ShowMenu( MenuType.SaveScreen, 0 );

halkun · Jun 12, 2011

lasyan
If you are change the commands names from the wiki to something else, it would be cool to make a table or something so we can convert from one command to another (Or, update the wiki)

lasyan3 · Jun 13, 2011

Halkun,

Do you mean something like this :
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02 - REQSW - CallEntityStartWait49 - MENU - ShowMenu

?

halkun · Jun 13, 2011

That will work

Armorvil · Jun 13, 2011

Code:
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TalkSet( false );

Inserting it after the message / ItemAdd code will ensure that you won't be able to talk to the NPC again and thus, get the item again

Just as a heads-up, this doesn't work

Or rather, it works, but if you leave the area and come back, you'll be able to talk to the guy again and get the item again >_<
Any idea how to make NPC's prizes one time only ?

halkun · Jun 14, 2011

Save in a progress variable and the check on entry to the field.

crushilista · Jul 3, 2011

Running in administrator mode, yet I still get Access to the path 'd:\dat_ini.dec' is denied.

lasyan3 · Jul 4, 2011

Running in administrator mode, yet I still get Access to the path 'd:\dat_ini.dec' is denied.

OOps, I did it again (dat_ini.dec is a file generated for my tests, I forgot to disable it :-[). Should be ok now.

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