[PSX/PC] General editor - Hades Workshop (0.50b)

Incinerator · Jul 10, 2018

UPDATE: Guys I guess is solved, I noticed the problem when I tried to import it again with Dnspy, and I saw that every archive (like FF9, UI and stuff) are gone! So i decided to come back with a "Virgin" CSharp an put everything again, now I edit again the font
UPDATE2: Aaaaand, i did it! I made anyway a backup, in case I will find other problems!

Good to hear you got it fixed!

ToraCarol · Jul 11, 2018

I fixed... but now other stuff is here x''P

You know guys WHY this thing happen?

It's because I set the Abillities of Blank? It's kinda strange.. I also applied macro.. so why his support abilities won't activate/appear? :-(

Tirlititi · Jul 11, 2018

Did you set the Ability learning correctly? The first ability must have a non-zero AP requirement (if I remember correctly, that's the only thing to set up).
The method enabling it is "ff9abil::FF9Abil_HasAp". You can check that method to know why it doesn't apply for him.

ToraCarol · Jul 12, 2018

Did you set the Ability learning correctly? The first ability must have a non-zero AP requirement (if I remember correctly, that's the only thing to set up).
The method enabling it is "ff9abil::FF9Abil_HasAp". You can check that method to know why it doesn't apply for him.

It's ok, silly mistake of mine.. it's solved also this one :mrgreen:

UPDATE: Guys I want to disable the menu button when I'm using Cid Frog... it's possible?

About giving trance to someone else, I'll make a few tests but it may be possible to actually do it now with dnSpy/Albeoris's Memoria. Of course, unless you import another model, the trance appearance will be roughly the same as the normal state.
I don't guarantee anything though ^^'

To not mistake.. could you tell me how to do exactly with dnSpy? I want to try to make a Trance model for Blank, so if someone of you can explain me better..maybe I can give a shot!

Incinerator · Jul 12, 2018

Guys I want to disable the menu button when I'm using Cid Frog... it's possible?

You know I noticed this myself. The menu is enabled whilst controlling as Cid_Frog before the red light green light mini game.
Wasn’t like that in psx as far as I know.
Never the matter a simple fix.

CrazynNova · Jul 12, 2018

I really hate to make an example of myself but I'm having some serious difficulties trying to work out how to load files into this tool

I have both the steam and physical copy of the game. I have tried loading the .bin files from the steam version (p0data12 for example) all of which produce the unhandled exception error message. With the PSX version, I am even more lost. There is a "raw cd image" file on the disk. How the hell is that loaded in?

I'm sorry to be a pain

Tirlititi · Jul 13, 2018

Steam version: you must load the FF9_Launcher.exe file.
PSX version: you must rip your CD to an ISO file (there are tools for that on the internet). The output must be a .bin file, not .img.

ToraCarol · Jul 13, 2018

Hi Tirlititi

Have you checked my latest question? You think you can help somehow?

You know I noticed this myself. The menu is enabled whilst controlling as Cid_Frog before the red light green light mini game.
Wasn’t like that in psx as far as I know.
Never the matter a simple fix.

I know right..

Tirlititi · Jul 13, 2018

I've not checked, it's strange to me... Who is in the party when you open the menu?
Anyway, there can be 2 reasons for that:
- It was already there in the PSX version,
- There is a special check in the engine's source code that prevents the effect of "DisableMenu" in that field at that point, which is likely to be a mistake.

I am very confident that the Field Scripts themselves are exactly the same in the PSX and Steam versions, and that's the thing usually dealing with menu enabling/disabling (unless the engine oversteps it).

Incinerator · Jul 13, 2018

- There is a special check in the engine's source code that prevents the effect of "DisableMenu" in that field at that point, which is likely to be a mistake.

I'm going to assume it's this.
Like other engine mistakes, such as being able to land the invincible airship on world map bushes.

brucy · Jul 14, 2018

well fortunately be able to land in more places is a good thing , infact i am really interested in make the invinicible able to land anywere

KekeMcGee · Jul 16, 2018

Is model importing still broken? or am I doing things wrong?

I've tried importing proper versions of ASCII FBX & Binary FBX, but they either crash the game, or fail to load the scene.

Tirlititi · Jul 16, 2018

Yes, it's still broken. I don't know what program you use for creating your FBX files, but you *should* be able to import accessory models.
The character models are a mess... I don't know what fails and why and I gave it up, at least temporarily.
Also, I didn't test replacing only the animations in the latest version, but it was working pretty nicely last time... so you may also do that if I'm not mistaken.

Incinerator · Jul 16, 2018

Is model importing still broken? or am I doing things wrong?

I've tried importing proper versions of ASCII FBX & Binary FBX, but they either crash the game, or fail to load the scene.

Yes, it's still broken. I don't know what program you use for creating your FBX files, but you *should* be able to import accessory models.
The character models are a mess... I don't know what fails and why and I gave it up, at least temporarily.
Also, I didn't test replacing only the animations in the latest version, but it was working pretty nicely last time... so you may also do that if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah. Still a bit buggy. I've only got as far as model swapping weapons with the importer, but those where invisible in game. I treid test importing the Zodiac SPear weapon, could not import that. I could not model swap Zidane with Quina still. (Vice versa)

The character models are a mess... I don't know what fails and why and I gave it up, at least temporarily.
Also, I didn't test replacing only the animations in the latest version, but it was working pretty nicely last time... so you may also do that if I'm not mistaken.

Regrading the characters, I tried numerous things to try and progress. At the very least, after properly re-rigging custom models to the output's bone hierarchy, and those animations intact, I was able to import it without crashing the model importer, but in game, it still crashed. something is still missing. I use 3ds Max and Maya. (Usually with the .anim files).
Animations still there, everything, but to no avail, the game will still crash.

KekeMcGee · Jul 16, 2018

Ah, I mainly use Blender. Thanks for the replies, looking forward to it being fixed no matter how long it takes.

Incinerator · Jul 17, 2018

Ah, I mainly use Blender. Thanks for the replies, looking forward to it being fixed no matter how long it takes.

What were you trying to import? Accessory, Character?

Maedroth · Jul 18, 2018

Is there any way to modify the 'Level up' and 'Ability Up' support abilities? As in, modify the values they give (1.5x EXP, 2x, 3x etc.).

Tirlititi · Jul 19, 2018

Yes, but preferably with the tool dnSpy.
The code for that is in the method "BattleResultUI::InitialInfo". There's the following lines there for experience:
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    if (ff9abil.FF9Abil_GetEnableSA((int)pLAYER.info.slot_no, 235))    {     battleEndValue.value += this.defaultExp >> 1;    }

And for AP:
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    if (ff9abil.FF9Abil_GetEnableSA((int)pLAYER.info.slot_no, 236))    {     battleEndValue2.value = this.defaultAp << 1;    }

If you're not familiar with the shift operators, you can simply consider that "+= this.defaultExp >> 1" adds half of the default experience to the total, and "this.defaultAp << 1" is twice the number of AP (it's like a division or a multiplication by 2).
You can replace those formulae by something else, like "battleEndValue.value = this.defaultExp * 3;" for getting three times the exp with Level Up.

If you want to do it with Hades Workshop, it's in the panel "CIL Code -> Raw -> BattleResultUI -> InitialInfo".
It is CIL Code there, not C#, so it's harder to read/modify, but if you don't want to use dnSpy, I will check how to do (if it is possible: not all the methods can be edited correctly with HW). I can't do it right now.

Incinerator · Jul 19, 2018

Code:
And for AP:
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Code:

if (ff9abil.FF9Abil_GetEnableSA((int)pLAYER.info.slot_no, 236)) { battleEndValue2.value = this.defaultAp << 1; }

If you're not familiar with the shift operators, you can simply consider that "+= this.defaultExp >> 1" adds half of the default experience to the total, and "this.defaultAp << 1" is twice the number of AP (it's like a division or a multiplication by 2).
You can replace those formulae by something else, like "battleEndValue.value = this.defaultExp * 3;" for getting three times the exp with Level Up.

could this be used to store (save) gained AP for each character separately and spend it on abilities rather?

Tirlititi · Jul 19, 2018

Yes, well, it's more in the "BattleResultUI::AddAp" method that you'd want to do that.
In that method, there's a loop over the equipments, then a loop over the ability slot of each piece of equipment, and the increase of these abilities' AP.
You can replace the whole loop by:
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ushort curap = FF9StateSystem.EventState.gEventGlobal[1500+2*pLAYER.info.slot_no] | ((ushort)FF9StateSystem.EventState.gEventGlobal[1500+2*pLAYER.info.slot_no+1] << 8);curap += ap;FF9StateSystem.EventState.gEventGlobal[1500+2*pLAYER.info.slot_no] = curap & 0xFF;FF9StateSystem.EventState.gEventGlobal[1500+2*pLAYER.info.slot_no+1] = curap >> 8;

With this, the general variables "VARL_GenUInt16_1500" will hold the AP storage number (65535 max) of Zidane, "VARL_GenUInt16_1502" will contain the one's of Vivi, etc... I've chosen 1500 randomly ; I think that this general variable is not used but it might be.
But then you need some system to allow players to spend these "ap_store" into abilities. And that's a completly different story, quite harder.

What you can do with that is to make this system with the field scripts: for instance, you can add the option to spend AP in the moogles' menu. If you don't want it, you have to wait until we know how to add a full menu with GameObjects and such. That surely won't be soon.

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