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15 gives me hope that 7R will have a world map. Or at least a gigantic open world. Hopefully without those INSANELY bad loading times though.
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Though I have not played it myself, I've watched a good friend of mine stream it from beginning to end. I am not a big fan of some of the little things that pop up in the game, but on the all the game seems to have a lot of effort put into. I just don't think Nomura is a very good director or writer. All the good things in this remake I am sure are in spite of him not because of him. He works best in a team that put chains on him. I am not bothered by the flashy combat, in fact parts of it look quite deep compared other games in the genre. I am just not a big fan of how spongey the enemies look.
I think the notion of it being a cash in is only part of the picture. A lot of effort and love went into making it. They were trying to please someone. It doesn't come across like some of the previous FF7 compilation pieces. At least to me.
I certainly wish we got mostly a 1 to 1 remake, but some of the expanded content and reemphasis on exploration of the expanded zones, I can't lie is very cool feeling. And certainly tickles the nostalgia. Looking up the skybox certainly is breathtaking, because it gives you the scale of midgar which is something the original couldn't do in a single frame (not to say the scale felt small in the original, because it didn't. The game felt f-ing massive).
A lot of the side quests look like blatant padding, but overall I'm impressed with the moment to moment stuff. Though I do wish they'd tone down some of the Nomura-isms, but it's no Advent Children at all. Things being cool for the sake of being cool is less common.
Now to get into my thoughts into stuff that are pure spoilers.
So the whole thing has left me feeling mixed. I loved reliving my childhood nostalgia for a bit, but it just kind of fell flat for me personally. However, I don't think that in anyway invalidates the opinions of people who love it. More power to you
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I think the notion of it being a cash in is only part of the picture. A lot of effort and love went into making it. They were trying to please someone. It doesn't come across like some of the previous FF7 compilation pieces. At least to me.
I certainly wish we got mostly a 1 to 1 remake, but some of the expanded content and reemphasis on exploration of the expanded zones, I can't lie is very cool feeling. And certainly tickles the nostalgia. Looking up the skybox certainly is breathtaking, because it gives you the scale of midgar which is something the original couldn't do in a single frame (not to say the scale felt small in the original, because it didn't. The game felt f-ing massive).
A lot of the side quests look like blatant padding, but overall I'm impressed with the moment to moment stuff. Though I do wish they'd tone down some of the Nomura-isms, but it's no Advent Children at all. Things being cool for the sake of being cool is less common.
Now to get into my thoughts into stuff that are pure spoilers.
I am not sure I can get behind this "alternate timeline" thing. And ghosts of fate. At best I can ignore it, at worst it's so in my face it becomes annoying. I'd actually claim that the game is amazing looking for the most part up until the ending. The twist really comes off as Nomura trying to put his personal stamp on the project, rather than honor the original. Which could be cool if done correctly, but it wasn't advertised this way at all. I also don't trust Nomura when it comes to depth. He has the habit of treating his audience both like idiots and the smartest people alive, simultaneously explaining everything while explaining nothing at all. And now that the game can go into any direction because the timeline has been altered I am not sure I am that interested in what is bound to be a Nomura fueled story, rather than faithfully sticking to the original and expanding. I might be proven wrong, who knows.
So the whole thing has left me feeling mixed. I loved reliving my childhood nostalgia for a bit, but it just kind of fell flat for me personally. However, I don't think that in anyway invalidates the opinions of people who love it. More power to you
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I agree. You should form your own opinions based on your own experiences. The people running this hate campaign for the remake in here haven't even played the game themselves and are basing their opinions on seeing a few minutes worth of footage of a 40+ hour game and are desperately searching for confirmation bias that supports their views, something befitting a 12 year old, not grown men who consider themselves to be intellectuals. It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. Let's not act like children.
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As to the overwhelming amount of positive reviews from professional reviewers, faithfulness to the original is not a criterion that critics apply or care about. Therefore, to them, how much FF7R sticks to the original plot, is probably of no importance. To be honest, I am not sure how many of them would even be able to tell whether it does or not stick to the original plot and to what degree. So, by completely discarding any considerations as to how closely this game really does resemble the original release from 1997 in terms of overall story or atmosphere, one might be able to understand how these reviewers come to their conclusions and consequently to their rave reviews.
The main problem, in my opinion, was the decision to split the Remake into several episodes. Maybe that’s the only way to feasibly do it, however, it does cause all kinds of issues that are glaringly obvious. In order to make this game palatable to people who have not played the original 1997 FF7, it must feel like a whole game to them, not one that only deals with the beginning, possibly not so exciting first quarter of the original game’s slew of events. As a result, the ending of FF7R probably has to have an ending and a final boss that awe the audience. I am afraid that this is why they did not choose Motorball as the final boss but something else. Even though Motorball may have been iconic in 1997, I don’t think it would have been something that would have felt like an inspiring end to this game for newcomers to FF7. One can clearly find elements of FF7 in FF7R that would only happen in FF7 at a much later point in the game. For instance, the final one-on-one scene between Sephiroth and Cloud, which is the very final fight of FF7, is now happening conveniently at the end of FF7R. I do wonder how they are trying to remake the rest of FF7, if they are already using up some of the most memorable moments you would not see in the original until much later in the game.
That even makes me wonder whether they are going to remake the rest of the game anyway. After all, this game is officially called “Final Fantasy VII Remake”, not “Final Fantasy VII Remake Episode I” or something similar. Assuming they did indeed intend to remake the rest of the original FF7 in additional episodes, wouldn’t it have made more sense to have called “Final Fantasy VII Remake” something like “Final Fantasy VII Remake Episode I”? Maybe they just did so for marketing purposes since, to be fair, pretending it’s a complete remake and hoping that some people might not have read about the episodic nature might boost sales. People who have never even played FF7 would, and I am really just guessing here, probably be more likely to spend money on what they expect to turn out as a whole game experience rather than a mere part to what they think might be only a first part to a trilogy or maybe even a tetralogy.
But maybe the naming “Final Fantasy VII Remake” was entirely intentional as the next episode will dramatically swerve from what would have been the second part of the original FF7. Based on the allusions in the ending of FF7R, it seems not unreasonable to present this as the base case for what is going to be the next installment in the FF7R series.
The main problem, in my opinion, was the decision to split the Remake into several episodes. Maybe that’s the only way to feasibly do it, however, it does cause all kinds of issues that are glaringly obvious. In order to make this game palatable to people who have not played the original 1997 FF7, it must feel like a whole game to them, not one that only deals with the beginning, possibly not so exciting first quarter of the original game’s slew of events. As a result, the ending of FF7R probably has to have an ending and a final boss that awe the audience. I am afraid that this is why they did not choose Motorball as the final boss but something else. Even though Motorball may have been iconic in 1997, I don’t think it would have been something that would have felt like an inspiring end to this game for newcomers to FF7. One can clearly find elements of FF7 in FF7R that would only happen in FF7 at a much later point in the game. For instance, the final one-on-one scene between Sephiroth and Cloud, which is the very final fight of FF7, is now happening conveniently at the end of FF7R. I do wonder how they are trying to remake the rest of FF7, if they are already using up some of the most memorable moments you would not see in the original until much later in the game.
That even makes me wonder whether they are going to remake the rest of the game anyway. After all, this game is officially called “Final Fantasy VII Remake”, not “Final Fantasy VII Remake Episode I” or something similar. Assuming they did indeed intend to remake the rest of the original FF7 in additional episodes, wouldn’t it have made more sense to have called “Final Fantasy VII Remake” something like “Final Fantasy VII Remake Episode I”? Maybe they just did so for marketing purposes since, to be fair, pretending it’s a complete remake and hoping that some people might not have read about the episodic nature might boost sales. People who have never even played FF7 would, and I am really just guessing here, probably be more likely to spend money on what they expect to turn out as a whole game experience rather than a mere part to what they think might be only a first part to a trilogy or maybe even a tetralogy.
But maybe the naming “Final Fantasy VII Remake” was entirely intentional as the next episode will dramatically swerve from what would have been the second part of the original FF7. Based on the allusions in the ending of FF7R, it seems not unreasonable to present this as the base case for what is going to be the next installment in the FF7R series.
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So first you say only respect your own opinion and then you go on shitting on everybody who hates this game calling them 12 year olds? :
Why would we have to spend tons of money for smth we know we don't like? And as far as I remember none of us tried to even expertly criticize detailed things we would only know after playing the game. We criticize first and foremost that its not a Remake, its a shit on the originals story and every major plot event and that is fact, or would you argue one has to play it to know that when its all right there in the cutscenes? Certainly not. And that is not what we expected or wanted. So why on earth is criticism not justified in that regard?
Also it is well known that the combat system is action based, not ATB like in the original. This is known for years now. If ppl (like us) don't like these things in general or at least not in a Final Fantasy, considering this was not like this in the original, then again criticism is justified.
Btw with about the same validity could we say that the ppl spending 60+ bucks on this game and like that shit are 12 year olds, not grown men who expect a game to have actual thought through design, balance, story-telling, character development, etc.
That you like this game is good for you but stop acting so high and mighty and condescending towards ppl that don't. Their opinion is just as valid as yours and is not based on things they do not know as all aspects that were criticized are directly there in the game, not made up or exaggerated. There is time travel, there is characters that don't die but should have, there is matrix like drama scenes that are just over the top you can watch them on youtube, there is major flaws in that new story that just doesn't make any kind of sense with the original. It's all there and wasn't made up by us. It was made up by Nomura.
If any, this is the forum of highest quality reviews and opinions of Final Fantasy games and RPGs in general. These are ppl that spent their life modding these games, playing them hundreds of times over and over again, discovering new stuff, and just thinking about these games and its characters, their reason to be and say smth, their behaviour in certain occasions more than anybody else in the world. And certainly more than the devs.
Todays game design consists mostly of graphics and I can tell you because this eats most of the programming work as it is BY FAR the most complex and tedious part when programming a game(as smbd with a degree in just that department of computer science you can take my word). The maths and work behind Ray tracing, multiple reflections, real time animations is OUTRAGEOUS. That's why the companies need most and their best ppl to work on that. And then it's natural that there is just not much personel left for actual story-writing and thinking these things through. Also at some point when you spent months/years until the animations look so real HD like in FF7R then your investors wanna see results and finally publish smth and make money. And what can you impress them most with at a press conference? Right, it's GRAPHICS because that's what every fat business idiot can see and judge wether it's good or not. That's what makes money and keeps companies alive. Sadly. This explains the strictly monotonous downward curve of stories and the strictly monotonous upward curve of graphics in games in the last 20 years. Ppl growing up with that or the ones that just weren't touched so emotionally by the RPGs of the 90s and early 2000s might not care and get used to the new era of gaming but others, like many in here, cannot.
And if after all these years a company promises an HD remake of the most iconic game in video game history that has touched us more than any other game, and the outcome is tons of stuff completely made up, probably made up on the spot because it just looks cool in a scene, altered story scripts and what not then yes, then we do not like this game and want to talk to others about this that feel the same. That is why we post here and we're entitled to. If you think the majority here are 12 year olds that just hate because they like hating...then why would you wanna post here? You don't seem attached to the forum in any way so why care? It seemed to be so important to just insult a lot of ppl here that you needed to do it......Do you see any of us going to forums/reviews of ppl where the majority likes the game and shitting on it? I for myself do not do that.
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Part of the problem here is that people are talking at cross purposes, since they come with different assumptions to the discussion. If you view a game as mere entertainment and you just want to have a fun time in the X amount of hours you spend on it, then some of the criticisms expounded will mean nothing to you; on the other hand if you want something more out of the experience, a simple thing like a crappy plot device will probably tarnish it. If you think there is no fact of the matter about the quality of a game, that all opinions are equally valid and there is no real knowledge to be had, then a criticism, any criticism, may start to sound like "invalidating your experience" (to paraphrase someone on the thread); on the other hand, if you do think there are objective standards through which the quality of a game is to be measured, then the first questions you ought to be answering are what are those standards and how are they to be gauged. If you think fidelity to the original story, maybe even the mechanics (turn based with ATB is very different from action RPG), is an important factor since after all the game does bear FFVII in the title, then the deviations will matter; if you are not that concerned with fidelity, a paltry resemblance to the original will suffice and any deviations will probably be a welcomed novelty.
In the original game, Jessie is a minor character with very few lines. Her last lines are spoken on the stairs to the plate, and are a recognition of the stark effects of her actions and an acceptance of her fate. Through acceptance, she gains dignity, atones and redeems herself, and in redeeming herself she redeems all mankind. This is all done in a few lines of text. Is this Shakespeare? No, not really, but shows solid craftsmanship, an awareness of tragedy and real human sympathy by giving what is a minor character a moment to shine.
It seems in the remake they give Jessie much more airtime, even some flirting with Cloud (from a love-triangle to a love-square?). Avalanche's actions are not really terrorism because it is Shinra that eventually destroys the reactors and causes all the death and mayhem. It seems Jessie will not die, so she will not have a tragic end but neither will she have her redemption. Is this in any way better? Does it flesh out a real character, or is it just padding the game with cutscenes and dialogue? Does it even matter? It depends on how you answer the previous questions -- which themselves are subject to rational discussion, I should add. With the caveat that I have seen very little footage, it seems to me there is a real loss here in story quality, in tragic pathos. But then I am not going to buy the game anyway -- not because of any ill will towards it, but because I only have a PC and with not a powerful enough graphics card, and I have better things to do anyway.
In the original game, Jessie is a minor character with very few lines. Her last lines are spoken on the stairs to the plate, and are a recognition of the stark effects of her actions and an acceptance of her fate. Through acceptance, she gains dignity, atones and redeems herself, and in redeeming herself she redeems all mankind. This is all done in a few lines of text. Is this Shakespeare? No, not really, but shows solid craftsmanship, an awareness of tragedy and real human sympathy by giving what is a minor character a moment to shine.
It seems in the remake they give Jessie much more airtime, even some flirting with Cloud (from a love-triangle to a love-square?). Avalanche's actions are not really terrorism because it is Shinra that eventually destroys the reactors and causes all the death and mayhem. It seems Jessie will not die, so she will not have a tragic end but neither will she have her redemption. Is this in any way better? Does it flesh out a real character, or is it just padding the game with cutscenes and dialogue? Does it even matter? It depends on how you answer the previous questions -- which themselves are subject to rational discussion, I should add. With the caveat that I have seen very little footage, it seems to me there is a real loss here in story quality, in tragic pathos. But then I am not going to buy the game anyway -- not because of any ill will towards it, but because I only have a PC and with not a powerful enough graphics card, and I have better things to do anyway.
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DLPB we get it you don't like the remake, you didn't like it when it was announced nothing has changed now it's released, most of your dislikes are subjective and that's ok but spewing vitriol isn't exactly useful or required, I will also add that reviews are also subjective and the majority of games journalists struggle to actually play games, but the average user review is still quite high reason being the game looks pretty,plays amazing and sounds amazing, with the low points being the voice acting and for some the story adjustments not all, I see it settling around 7-8 out of 10 amongst average Joe's, die hards have their opinions which fall in the love or hate almost exclusively over story
The black caped man, I can with 100% certainty say you have the entire wrong idea of how the battle system works, I've yet to see an adequate explanation of the battle system anywhere online, it is most definitely ATB based with action flair, it is effectively ff7 with positioning as a bonus layer of strategy required to master, it is in no way similar to ff15 or kingdom hearts, reactor 1 only just gives you a taste and that's only on the guard sentinel itself.
Also boss battles are only long if your aren't any good at the game or you approach the boss in the wrong way...assess is your friend., Once you git gud if your taking longer then 5minn on a boss you've hit it unprepared.
Only mechanical gripes I have are how long it takes to master revive material and the previously stated weapon upgrading
The black caped man, I can with 100% certainty say you have the entire wrong idea of how the battle system works, I've yet to see an adequate explanation of the battle system anywhere online, it is most definitely ATB based with action flair, it is effectively ff7 with positioning as a bonus layer of strategy required to master, it is in no way similar to ff15 or kingdom hearts, reactor 1 only just gives you a taste and that's only on the guard sentinel itself.
Also boss battles are only long if your aren't any good at the game or you approach the boss in the wrong way...assess is your friend., Once you git gud if your taking longer then 5minn on a boss you've hit it unprepared.
Only mechanical gripes I have are how long it takes to master revive material and the previously stated weapon upgrading
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Actually, your reading comprehension has failed you. I'm not "shitting on everybody who hates this game," I'm "shitting" on people like you specifically whose opinions are based solely on watching a handful of minutes worth of footage and are now on a warpath, all while believing they're voicing an objective truth and that they should be taken seriously in the slightest. THAT is what makes you come off as children. I assume all of us with older accounts are in our 30s at this point, which makes this type of behavior even harder to believe. This is what I expect to see on the first page of /v/, not an old school FF community where I assume most have an IQ that exceeds two digits.So first you say only respect your own opinion and then you go on shitting on everybody who hates this game calling them 12 year olds? :
You've described the game as a dull action game that's just flashy and devoid of depth multiple times now, so your expert opinion has gone beyond just criticizing the story changes, which you've also not done your research on as displayed multiple times in this thread. You've concluded that the script itself (dialog, character interactions) and the character development is bad which you would have absolutely no knowledge of from watching a handful of cut cenes out of context from the tail end of a 40 hour game. Do you see why I think you're being silly and why anyone with a functional brain can't take this seriously?
Just because something isn't your cup of tea doesn't make it objectively bad like you're claiming. There's good action-based combat and there's bad action-based combat. The combat in 7R is far from bad, despite the criticism I wrote in a previous post. It's certainly more in-depth than the original, as any action-based game inherently is by requiring at least a slight degree of skill and interaction to succeed. The original game certainly doesn't have any gameplay depth (it's flashy and fast-paced, but shallow and fun), so I'm not sure why you're even voicing this (baseless) complaint.
Mad that it's not turn-based despite never being promoted as such? That's fine, but if you want to criticize its various systems and mechanics you should do so from experience, not assumptions.
See, there you go again making assumptions beyond your reach. If anything, this paragraph reinforces my original point. I also don't follow your reasoning in the slightest, and this makes the below quote even more ridiculous on your part.
Yes, I'm the one being "high and mighty and condescending towards others", not the guy who's generalized every single person who doesn't share his opinion that 7R is a bad game. What was it you said, that we're all from that "Game of Thrones generation" and just swallow anything that's flashy and lacking in depth? Next-level self-awareness you have there.
"Their" opinions are not as valid as mine, because I've actually played the game to completion and can speak in-depth about every aspect of it. The last hour of the game is a mixed bag, but it doesn't invalidate everything that came before it. It's about the journey, not the destination, and the journey was highly enjoyable for reasons you and your kind have already written off as OBJECTIVELY BAD.
What you're referring to is an echo chamber, and I'm sure most wouldn't appreciate being generalized or spoken for. What you're really saying is that certain people here are stuck in the past and hostile toward change. That doesn't sound like someone whose opinions you should value above more reasonable and level-headed individuals. As far as I can tell, there are multiple reasonable users here who are capable of thinking for themselves without clinging to one extreme or the other mindlessly. Are these people not part of this holy community of knowledgeable FF fans?
Wow, it's almost like there are dedicated and specialized staff members who handle different aspects of development or something. You're also generalizing again, or under the impression that AAA development is all there is to the medium, or that every case is the same. Either way, it has nothing to do with the quality of writing unless you're implying that the programmers, animators, 3D artists and various game designers are too busy with their jobs to help write the script, which is pants-on-head retarded.
They did call it a remake, and it is very faithful (character development, chain of events, locations, enemy design, overall aesthetic and on) up until the end of the game, but I called it deceptive marketing in my very first post. Either way, games - even remakes - should be judged on their own merits, and saying that FF7R is objectively bad in any regard is insincere and obviously fueled by an agenda, especially when coming from holier-than-thou observers.
You're generalizing again, by the way. This "us" you keep speaking about doesn't seem to include an awful lot of people based on this thread. My Qhimm account is 14 years old, by the way. Are you implying that I'm only here to insult someone?
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I could... respond in detail to this absolutely ridiculous post again but why would I....it all started with this "Ric" flaming Kefka who pointed out an obvious RIDICULOUS plot twist that not even a 10 year old would write. And when ppl come around so condescending and insulting it is natural to receive that back in their face.
My post is understood by those who do and not by those who don't. Period. No further point in argueing with ppl that just cannot face reality.
Btw your post again is full of personal insults while mine was written with a "one could argue" style of writing that doesn't head on attack ppl.
My post is understood by those who do and not by those who don't. Period. No further point in argueing with ppl that just cannot face reality.
Btw your post again is full of personal insults while mine was written with a "one could argue" style of writing that doesn't head on attack ppl.
So yes, you are solely flaming and insulting right now, that is also a fact. Now stfu pls.
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Please stop pretending that you read a single thing I said and that you didn't just get triggered by that keyword before continuing to spew your usual drivel in typical toxic DLPB manner. That post refers to you just as much as the other guy. Like I said, up until the ending, the events can be summarized in exactly the same way as the original game.
Padding aside, Wedge surviving and the brief appearances of these arbiters that only tie in to the end of the game are the only major differences. I assume the other MAJOR plot point you're talking about is how Shinra allows Avalanche to blow up their reactors, while magnifying the blast in one case. The overall motive is still the same. Midgar is unsustainable. The new angle is that Shinra wants to go to war with Wutai again, and to this end, they use Avalanche and their actions as propaganda by saying they're funded by Wutai. Avalanche still has the same intent.
I also disagree about the art direction, especially as it pertains to enemy design. The slums are pretty boring to look at during daytime, but the city itself is very faithful to the original. The main cast is also very well realized and fleshed out in a faithful manner. I know you had an aneurysm about Aerith's dress being 5 centimeters too short, but that character is still very much the same innocent and playful girl found in the original.
Also, regarding your last post. This type of user reaction is very, very common on Metacritic. In many cases, review bombing gets out of hand and has to be manually reverted. Likewise, being a AAA game isn't enough to get high scores anymore and this viewpoint shows that you're out of touch. Only first-party Nintendo games remain suspect, and the Nintendo bonus has become a meme. We're living in a world where games like Sekiro win GOTY awards and are somehow mainstream despite catering solely to the hardcore. The vast majority of AAA games land in the 80 - 85 range. It was the case for both FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 as well, with equally big budgets and marketing campaigns and both of which were anticipated for over 10 years. It's nothing new and certainly not an exception in 7Rs case.
Yeah, no, that's not how an argument works. Your points aren't hard to understand, just incredibly silly and clearly driven by an agenda and inherent bias. Instead of "responding in detail," you chose to take "insults" out of context and proceeded to tell me to "stfu."
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@DLPB Your ATB gauge still fills, it only fills faster if you get hits.
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Yes cuz unlike you I dont feel the need of forcing my opinion on others while insulting them(good strategy btw)
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Don't you find that incredibly ironic?
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The Black-caped Man
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No because I never said "hey user xyz your are silly cuz things are like this and that weh weh weh". I merely stated my opinion about the stupidity of ideas implemented in a game. The thing about jerking off to GoT was a respond to insults from Ric before that. So no, I feel completely calm and righteous
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People are allowed to like what they want. People are allowed to dislike what they want. No one is wrong. Even if you disagree with each other's preferences. It is ALL subjective.
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Absolutely agree.
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Your ATB gauge charges constantly and is sped up by attacking. You also have various materia to help speed up ATB, and spells like Haste greatly improve the charge rate. Distance management isn't an issue in the game with a few exceptions. Each melee character has a basic attack that closes the distance when you're far away, and targeting flying enemies changes your standard attacks into an aerial combo. There are a few cases of enemies flying out of bounds, like high up in the Sector 7 Ruins and only Barret and Aerith can hit them with regular attacks while the rest have to use magic or items.
Your limit breaks, for some idiotic reason, can be interrupted because they have a long windup time and there's not much you can do about it unless you wait until you've staggered the enemy to use them. This also applies to the -Ga spells and requires positioning if you're expecting an interrupting attack. There's also a Classic Mode included that essentially does all the basic attacking automatically while you only select the ATB actions. This also greatly reduces the HP the enemy has. It may increase the ATB charge rate as well, but I wouldn't know.
100%. I'm not saying it's not allowed to dislike the game, I'm saying it's incredibly stupid to formulate an opinion if your sole experience with it is watching a few minutes of footage somewhere, especially drawing conclusions like the entire script being "objectively bad." That's just agenda driven nonsense, not an opinion to be taken seriously. Even how one perceives the events at the end of the game is subjective. Was it what I wanted? No, I wanted things to play out differently, but they could've gone in a different direction. Either way, I'll play the next part because I overall enjoyed the gameplay and character interactions.
Only the naming convention is a flaw since it's clearly not a remake. The changes are subjective, not objective flaws, and if you think they are, that's an opinion.
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I think the only thing any of us can say with objectiveness is that this remake doesn't follow the original 100%. And whether that's correct or wrong is completely subjective. The combat system is amazing to some and garbage to others. All of it is preference when it comes to art, and video games are art. While yes, there are objective metrics created to measure these things with, especially when it comes to literature and creative writing, but even those metrics are based on how someone feels.
I agree with some of your points about the remake DLPB, but I don't think you can exercise opinions as 100% objective.
I agree with some of your points about the remake DLPB, but I don't think you can exercise opinions as 100% objective.
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For example just a thing like this(automatic z-targeting and gap closing auto attacks) are things that I do not find attractive in a game (its like being held by the hand and extremely limits the freedom too much for my taste), therefore am I entitled now to dislike the combat system in general and not just because its a change on the original? It being a change to the original is already enough for me to not buy the game because I know it's just not smth I seek in a Final Fantasy.
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What is even more bizarre is that no one even bothers to argue the position, they just state it. But absent an argument why should anyone accept it? And if one would try to assay an argument, that would be implicit acknowledgment that the matter can be adjudicated rationally, which is precisely what the position denies. It is likewise subjective, nothing but emoting, so it cannot be expressing a judgment, much less a true one.
My suspicion is that no one really believes this. They retreat into extreme relativism because neither do they like to see their opinions challenged -- and having poor taste, or being ignorant of great art, is not an indictment on the person's character', just like being ignorant of mathematics is not -- nor can they rationally articulate and defend them. But of course there are objective standards by which we measure the quality of any art piece, and therefore there is real knowledge to be had. Not of course, knowledge in the sense of the modern empirical sciences, and not at their level of rigor and precision, but still knowledge.
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