The Squall's Dead Theory

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OH MAH GAWD. While we're talking about relationships between ff games, I just noticed one between FF9 and FF1. In FF9, Garnet plays the role of a character called Princess Cornelia in the play. There's a town in FF1 called Cornelia/Corneria, it's the first town in the game. And the princess of Cornelia is called Sarah. Garnet's real name is Sarah. COINCIDENCE?!?!?

Here's another one. At the end of FF9, Garnet tells Zidane something along the lines of "Neither Cloud nor Squall shall come between us." Maybe that is a symbol to tell us that Cloud and Squall won't come between them because both characters died!@$% Lulz k nao I'm just trawlin' but I *was* srs about the reference that FF9 had about princess Sarah of Cornelia. FF9 has a lot of older FF references anyway. :)

EDIT: I just noticed that Nikfrozty mentioned that Squall and Cloud are mentioned in FF9. Srry I missed that. :P
 
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OH MAH GAWD.  I just realized something.  The four huge materia in FF7 happen to be yellow, red, blue, and green in color, amirite?  Well, the four crystals of Earth, Fire, Water, and Wind in FF1 are the same colors, respectively.  That's why they didn't want the four huge materia to be destroyed by Meteor.  They were the elemental crystals!

Sorry, I'm mocking you :3
You don't mind, do you?
 
OH MAH GAWD. Cid's in every game. They must all be on the same planet, and he's an immortal being with a horrible memory.
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As long as it's for the lulz it's fine. :P I thought it was an awesome revelation though... =/
 
Squall was punctured through the chest, which means that, most likely, the spike collapsed a lung. However, even in this world (without magic, extra-advanced tech, GF's, etc) one can survive that, even if just by the skin of their teeth. With the assistance of magic and FF8 world tech, Squall's survival is assured through nearly anything as long as he can get medical attention soon enough. Also, we must all remember that THIS IS A GAME. The authors of any game are not going to kill off their main character unless s/he is already dead when the actual story starts. It's just not a reasonable thing to do, plus it would seriously tick off the players. Even if the main character DOES happen to die, it wouldn't be until towards the very end of the game, like FF7. Writing the story for a game is almost exactly like writing a book or the script for a movie or show: without your main characters, your story is nothing. Also about the "Squall's dead, this is all a dream theory", no one's mind can envision any part of the world it creates without a way to view it, i.e. a T.V. or other distance viewing device, or the person actually being in that part of the created world. You try dreaming about a place you've never been and meeting or creating people you've never met or known the type and see how well that works out for you. I'll admit, the human mind is capable of many wondrous things, but that is not one of them. I'll admit that I was never able to play the game all the way through (because I borrowed it from someone else lol) so I don't know the full story, but I do have sufficient analysis skills to know that this "Squall's dead theory" is unfounded, unnecessary, and, while an interesting prospect, untrue.         ~Kolris K.~
 
dude welcome to the forums and thanks for the insight but please stop posting everything in red.
 
plus with that much thought it probably woulda been a better idea to just make a new topic instead of necroing (i know you can necro if you have something valid to add to it but i don't think this topic is really necro-able)
 
FF10, Tidus could have died from Sin at the start
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Not sure if this has been corrected (Because I don't want to read all the pages XD ) but Tidus does technically die...

[ Sorry If I posted in a Necro-ed thread..it was at the top of the page and I didn't check dates lol ]
 
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Meh, I always just figured Square's authors couldn't be arsed with making something more coherent. And the plot-twist creep, inventing new threads to follow up, possibly to make the game easier to balance(?)... But, hey, good head-exercise.
 
oh nice i posted on that site and my comments removed because of a simple thing that happend on disc 1 with detroys the guys whole argument which is when elli sends them to the past for the first time which becomse reacuring through the next 2 disc's and not just that i've also been baned from posting on there and had my comment removed lol so i'm taking it as i'm rite regardless now the guy who put it up has lost all respect from me i wudn't bother even posting a comment the guy doesn't want people who know the game inside out posting
 
oh nice i posted on that site and my comments removed because of a simple thing that happend on disc 1 with detroys the guys whole argument which is when elli sends them to the past for the first time which becomse reacuring through the next 2 disc's and not just that i've also been baned from posting on there and had my comment removed lol so i'm taking it as i'm rite regardless now the guy who put it up has lost all respect from me i wudn't bother even posting a comment the guy doesn't want people who know the game inside out posting
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very few people read run on sentences because they're very hard to understand, i would suggest rephrasing that so that everyone understands what your talking about.
 
Looking at the site, that's part of why his comment got culled, bad grammar, bad spelling and even calling someone a moron.
 
writing/typing english has never been a strong suit for me as i have learning difficulties if that courses problems for people its their problem not mine and as for calling someone a moron if u read the comment i posted it was directed at the person who made the argument about squall being dead and i stated why.  if they can't handle being called a moron for very weak argument points then they sudn't have even posted it as its critisim regardless of what i called him/her. and due to my learning difficulties i tend to forget grammer which is my bad
 
I spent my entire time at secondary school getting extra help because I have dyspraxia, I know all about difficulties in learning.

You still called the guy a moron for his opinion, not a wise thing to do.
 
i saw an argument full of weak points and pointed them out. no where did i see an opinon, opinons and arguments are 2 seperat things in my book, and as u can see opinons are different and not much detailed research goes into them once he had done that much research it becomes an argument. thats how i see it informed opinons are different again and i have dyslexia
 
i saw an argument full of weak points and pointed them out. no where did i see an opinon, opinons and arguments are 2 seperat things in my book, and as u can see opinons are different and not much detailed research goes into them once he had done that much research it becomes an argument. thats how i see it informed opinons are different again and i have dyslexia
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don't matter, this forum is friendly, if your not going to be friendly then there is a problem, calling someone a moron is bad no matter what, it is in fact a type of trolling.


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to elaborate, i mean you'll find yourself in serious trouble if you go around calling people here morons like you did that guy.
 
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lol don't worry bout that just that i notced alot of comments about anything to do with disc 1 of ff8 had been removed hence why i called him a moron people here listen to peoples opinons atleast thats the feel i get im not one to call someone for no reason but i will reframe from doing so since i have read the updated rules and regs
 
lol don't worry bout that just that i notced alot of comments about anything to do with disc 1 of ff8 had been removed hence why i called him a moron people here listen to peoples opinons atleast thats the feel i get im not one to call someone for no reason but i will reframe from doing so since i have read the updated rules and regs
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nice to see someones read the rules :D

Was Ultimecia watching Squall as he took care of comatose Rinoa?  If she was, what did she think, seeing him, the person she hated and feared, at his most tender and vulnerable?
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probably wished she could rip him to shreds
 
While the Squall is Dead theory has merit, the ending seems too happy and unfitting to go along with it. If the ending is part of some kind of dream, then it makes about as much sense as Evangelion Ep26 (Squall's ideal reality?).

After I finished the game, I figured that the story is out of order. As I see it, the first part of the ending (Squall wandering) is chronologically the first event in the game. As he wanders, he tries to recall reality. This struggle to remember who he is and how he got there is what the game actually consists of. "I'll be here, waiting." The intro video is his mental process as he begins to recall the events that brought him to the time-compressed reality, one bit at a time.

Remembering Rinoa's words are the key to remembering, and he starts with the first significant event in that chapter of his life (the fight with Seifer). From the end of the intro video until the ending cutscene, Squall is recalling the events from his own, very skewed perspective. The events in the game may be representations of the story as Squall saw them, and perhaps not as they really happened. This forgives a lot of the oddities (Moombas?), and further justifies the use of Squall's inner monologues.

Sakaguchi specifically noted the difference between how Cloud's personal thoughts are intentionally hidden from the player, while he wanted to try the opposite with FF8. Telling the story from that character's perspective always seemed to me a good way to execute the concept.
 
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