[FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]

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Just to check: is materia meant to have the same form in both the singular and plural?
 
Nope. I use materia like diamond.

There are lots of diamonds. There are lots of materias.
Diamond is rare. Materia is rare.

It's a localization choice. Japanese doesn't have plurals like this, so they aren't affected by these considerations. I think it's very silly to use the same form for materia when they are clearly separate rocks. Even different abilities with the different rocks.
 
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Nope. I use materia like diamond.

There are lots of diamonds. There are lots of materias.
Diamond is rare. Materia is rare.

It's a localization choice. Japanese doesn't have plurals like this, so they aren't affected by these considerations. I think it's very silly to use the same form for materia when they are clearly separate rocks. Even different abilities with the different rocks.

Ooohhh. I don't know though, DLPB. It's always kind of bugged me what exactly materia is, and how it's referenced by the general public. In the english game script, does the game ever refer to a plural form of materia, or do they always use it as a descriptor for the (plural) crystals?

IE: Is there a difference between Materia the material, and individual materia crystals (orbs? rocks?)  Because, stealing your reference, a necklace made OF Diamond is rare (and usually only found in a D&D campaign), but a necklace made WITH diamonds is more common. Then again, either is still referred to as a 'diamond necklace'.  Also, Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend.  Are Materias? or IS Materia? 

To put it in game context: What is it that's found somewhere with high amounts of condensed Mako?  A materia cluster? or a cluster of materias? A nest of crystal(ized) materias, or a nest of materia crystals?   

 EDIT: I guess in my head, I always wanted it to be clean and concise, so I subconsciously referenced Materia the same way Magicite is referenced in FF6. or Nethicite in FF12: A a material descriptor for a crystal.  You don't have multiple magicites, you have Magicite crystals. Same for Materia. (or so I thought.)

However, you've spent FAR more time with this script than anyone on this forum, (or outside of the production staff, honestly) So I defer to your judgement.

Either way, English plurals are weird.
 
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As I said above, Japanese is a fundamentally different language (they don't have plurals like this). The Japanese game uses the word "Materia" in English represented by kana (This is hard to grasp for most people. Many names in Japanese games are literally English!)  It's up to the localizer to choose. When we talk about the substance of diamond, we use diamond. When we have numerous diamond rocks we say "Nice diamonds". You wouldn't have a box with 5 diamonds [see] in it and say "There is nice diamond in there".
 
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Got it. You use the word similar to the use of the word "diamond", whereas I've always thought of it similar to the usage of the word "gold" because I assumed Materia was it's own thing, and referenced it's secondary noun's plural. "crystals" not "materias"

So, when Woosley used "Materia crystals" in the english script, it was incorrect and redundant, (similar to saying "diamond gemstone/s"). Materia is crystallized Mako. So properly, the translation should have referenced that Mako crystals = Materias.  "Materia's crystal" isn't a thing either, for the same reason. 

Thanks, DLPB!

NOW, on a completely different, and more on topic point, I have a quick question about the Model Overhaul portion of Reunion's 5c patch:  :P

I've been trying to follow up on all the different model issues and fixes you, Kaldarasha, and a few other's have been discussing, and I was wondering what, in R05c, has been implemented in addendum to, or in place of Kaldarasha's UM 1.66?  I know you aren't using Kaldarasha's new Cloud, Biggs, Wedge, or Jesse specifically, but what about Nunsrgr8's new model additions? Should I patch those into the .Lgp or are they already implemented? What about the animation updates, or the fixes to the flevel with things like Sepheroth's transparency and clouds water-walking model?

Just curious to see what I should try to patch in manually (using ideas and methods you AwesomeAmazingGenius people have already discussed), or what has already been patched. ^_^ 

Thanks, Sir!
 
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Everything model wise is in The Reunion Database.  Everything is logged there. I usually ask for Kaldarasha's latest models just before I release The Reunion - but sometimes I don't update.  I find his recent Cloud inferior, for example, to the one immediately before.  I don't keep track of that.  So far I think only a few models aren't his newest versions.

Woolsey didn't do FF7 though, it was Michael Baskett.
 
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Woolsey didn't do FF7 though, it was Michael Baskett.
....aaaaaand that's the SNES modder in me, rearing to life. Sorry; it's instinctual at this point, I believe. I see a translation error, or a 'WTF' localization line, and my brain automatically goes to "DAMN YOU, WOOSLEY!!".

Thanks for all the clarification and the brain food, sir! I'll check out the model list, and next time before I ask questions, I should probably just RTFM. It's what I get for being a swampy forum lurker, who tries to decipher old forum posts instead of making contact with actual people. lol
 
300 of ~730 sfx done.  Currently stands at 36 MB for the oggs.  Will v likely be < 100 MB for the full pack when I am done. There are 45 looping ones remaining from 90.
 
377 doesn't seem to loop in PC version (It's the Kefka like laugh heard in the Ghost Hotel).  But on PSX it does.  I have corrected it to loop.
 
Thanks for the mod! Pretty cool. I'm excited to try it out.
While downloading the torrent I had my anti-virus protection pop up with a message saying that part--not all--of the file is infected and the anti-virus software blocked it.
"The application bittorrentie.exe accesses a web resource
http://idpix.media6degrees.com/observ/hbpix?pixId=3715 that has been detected as infected. The web resource has been blocked and your PC is now safe."
Know why this might be happening? Will this cause any problems?
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I have no idea what that is, but it isn't related to The Reunion. There is no virus in my torrent or any of my files.
 
I'm guessing something is wrong with your torrent client; that filename "bittorrentie.exe" does not match anything in The Reunion at all.
 
Hello, my game seems to be crashing after having installed the mod,
As soon as the game launches, nothing happens, the screen is black and then after a few seconds it stops responding and I have to close it, I tried to see what happens when I uninstall the mod and the game works again, when I checked the app.log there was nothing written in it, I think it might be empty because the game doesn't even start. I used utorrent to install the mod
I am using windows 10 by and the steam version of ff7, I don't have any other mods installed. If you could let me know anything about fixing this it would be really helpful!
 
Hi, such a great mod, but I have an item here I don't find in the net.


Spacetime bomb - Uses "Demara" against one opponent


What is Demara?
 
Demara has nothing to do with this project.  No such word exists. You've likely used another mod on top of this one, which you are not meant to do.  Or you are using 7th Heaven, which is, again, not the installer from here and uses a mix of mods which will likely conflict.
 
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Demara, as far as I can tell, is from gjoerulv's Hardcore mod, and is Demi3 in FF7 standard, or Gravira in most other FF games as well as Beacause.
 
Thanks for the quick reply. That would make sense. Not sure why this would be happening. Hardly ever use a torrent, but I'll figure it out.

So far the game is pretty great, but I had a really hard core crash--even denied me getting into the task manager. I looked through the readme for access to the database, but the google link in the file says it's no longer there. Is there another link somewhere that I'm missing?

The crash happened while on the 5:00 timer coming back from the first boss, the scorpion. Nothing happened when I pressed X while standing next to the girl who has her foot stuck, and since I didn't know the story I just ran on, and when I got to the gates the game refused to proceed. Quit, went back, tried it again, still nothing, and then this time when I got the game over screen my whole monitor went dark and the audio fixed in a one-second loop. On my second monitor I couldn't get access to the task manager, as the game blocked it, so I had to do a hard reset.

Played through one more time (after looking up a walkthrough), and this time it worked?

Anyway, just FYI. The game seems fun and I'm happy to donate or assist if I can get all the way through.
 
The crash definitely hasn't been reported before, so I doubt it's the fault of this project.  If you are using 7th Heaven, then it may be that that is messing things up somehow?
 
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