You're american, so you fear nothing

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When did Mako's name become a swear word? That's an insult to the poor girl. >:(
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Oh, MAKO off.

Anyway, it's

* four letters
* FF7-related
* less explicit than calling Tony Blair a 'King Kanute'.
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Oh no you don't. I'm prepared to defend to the death the honor of a stranger on the internet that I've never actually met  >:( :x >:(
 
Bosola why are you manually typing my name in as a replacement for a vulgar word?.

Like Kudistos said, I take this as an insult! Why are you doing this? I have done nothing to insult you have I?

I would prefer if you stoped, I know you are not breaking any rules...it's just a matter of being repectful.
 
I fail to see the joke.

I know you "don't care" what I think. But I thought you were one of the nice ones?...You even pointed me in the right direction once. How is it nice to basically tell me to go [insert any word here] myself?

If you are trying to imply that you "randomly" pulled Mako out of your hat of random words, I would highly doubt that...

aether way its very distasteful...If there was something I have done to upset you, let me know I will try and fix it :/.
 
If you are trying to imply that you "randomly" pulled Mako out of your hat of random words, I would highly doubt that...
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I did. Don't believe me? There's not an awful lot I can really do to prove things either way. Misread a medium without intonation or nonverbal cues? That's the nature of text. Upset? That's not fortunate, but the internet demands a thicker skin.

If you're going to get upset that someone uses the source of your name, taken from FF7, as generic placeholder for swearing in an FF7-focussed context, what's going to happen when you meet someone who really is attacking you? If you can tie yourself in knots even over something well-meaning, then I really don't think forums are going to give you much pleasure.

I'm serious. I'm certainly not suggesting that you leave, but I don't see how someone can react this way and enjoy internet discussions. I know - as well as anyone - how easy it is to attribute malice or anger to a text that just wasn't worded properly. Worse, I've started flamewars all on the cue of some misgauged joke. But I've seen enough to know I can't jump to conclusions about posts and the intentions behind them.

What do you think my tone is? What do you think I feel? Anger? Superiority? Nervous insecurity? Sympathy? Whimsical pleasure? Boredom? Do you know? How could you? How could any of us know either how to respond, or what we're responding to? And that's entirely why you have to disinvest from forums in general. You don't have to become cold, but you do have to take a different attitude. You have to hang fire before responding, think of other meanings that are reasonable. If you don't, you'll find yourself hurt.

I know you "don't care" what I think.
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No, no, no, no! You've built this entire persona out of a few misread lines. You can probably hear me speak, watch me snicker, congratulating myself on a particularly well-worded snipe. And likewise, I can see you huff indignantly, close Firefox and fire up Dragon Age to calm your nerves. Except I can't, because that would be a massive assumption - an unjustified, sweeping conclusion founded on... what is that, eight words? Eight? And likewise, you've no way of knowing what I think, feel, how I react or... well, *much* beyond what I've said in a few scattered paragraphs.

You've *got* to stop doing this! Or do you? There's the rub. I've probably misread you. There as many possible readings of a post as pebbles on the beach. And that's exactly the problem here.
 
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No offence, but your response was a long winded "get a thicker skin" and "it was random" trust me I am not so easily offended by such words...

I was just wondering what provoked to what seemed like a random attack. Tell me this, why would I need to get a thicker skin if your comment wasn't meant for me?.

Example: Why don't you go Bosola yourself! what..its random I swear! Your trying to tell me out of all the words in the Final Fantasy 7 universe only one came to mind? I'd sat that Bosola!

While I do have a tenancy to over react, I just was taken off guard by your tasteless comment and I simply do not buy the very transparent excuse that followed, no matter how lengthy the post may seem.

So wile the rest of your post seemed to hint at me not "knowing you" or simply didn't understand what you meant by one simple post, this is false when someone says:

I suppose we just sort of assume politicians are a bunch of MAKOs right from the off
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I know when an insult is made, I don't need it to be explained, or your life story to understand. Also give such a poor follow up one can only be taken back, but I guess your right to sum up your comment "How do you know" and your right i don't.

I have stood with the best of them taking insult/s from the likes of hermoor/jari/others and lived through with "a thick skin" but do note I can be very "thick skinned" at times. You just took me off guard, and it was very unexpected as you were in the nice pile of members in my book.
 
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Bosola's long post should have read : "I never even once thought about you when I typed the mako words, you gotta believe me. I'm sorry about that, and I won't do it again."

There, drama over. Bosola just likes to be patronizing /give lessons / have that "holier than thou" attitude. This is how he is. Just don't mind him.

What do you think my tone is? What do you think I feel? Anger? Superiority? Nervous insecurity? Sympathy? Whimsical pleasure? Boredom? Do you know? How could you? How could any of us know either how to respond, or what we're responding to?
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While I agree with you that there was no need to get one's panties in a mess over your mako words (it was obvious you never had Mako -the person- in mind), I disagree with you here. Don't underestimate the power of words. You can tell many things from a person just by reading his/her posts. Sometimes, it's even easier to figure a person out by reading his posts, than by hearing him talk.
 
Bosola just likes to be patronizing /give lessons / have that "holier than thou" attitude. This is how he is. Just don't mind him.
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Not really. I just flamed you once when I was pissed off at work. It was unfair and unpleasant, but I don't think it reflects on how I really act and think normally. I hope not, anyway.

I was just wondering what provoked to what seemed like a random attack. Tell me this, why would I need to get a thicker skin if your comment wasn't meant for me?.
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 Maybe I should condense what I was saying:
 * 'Mako' was chosen randomly (and quite some time ago, too, if you look at my post history)
 * You misread the posts
 * Because it's easy to misread posts, you will find it easier to hang fire before interpreting.

That third point looks like 'get a thicker skin', but it's actually more to do with how we read and judge the tone of posts. In practice, because it's difficult, we have to 'disengage' from forums, but that's not quite the same thing as 'pull yourself together and take it on the chin'.

While I do have a tenancy to over react, I just was taken off guard by your tasteless comment and I simply do not buy the very transparent excuse that followed, no matter how lengthy the post may seem.
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But *why* would I choose your name? Doesn't it make sense to use a four-letter FF7 word to replace other four letter words in a forum about, well a lot of Squaresoft RPGs, but mostly FF7?

And what's my motive? You've never done anything to me and you've posted supportive things on my Youtube channel. Go by that evidence.

I suppose we just sort of assume politicians are a bunch of MAKOs right from the off
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Re-reading this, I wonder if you think I'm resurrecting those old rumours that you're a 'fake' member, that Mako and politicians are both liars? Is that why you think I chose the word? That's the most obvious connection I can make. It's not something that occurred to me at the time.

There's not really much more I can say on all this.
 
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Perhaps we can all just drop this. Mako, you have perceived a slight against you and bosola says this was not the intent of his post. I doubt any apologies are going to be given out but I would not like this to turn into a flamewar in which I would have to do anything against respected members.
 
This has all become a discussion about how slippery words are, so I'll speak plain.

I am sorry, because I don't want to hurt anyone. I'm sure Mako is sincere, but I feel angry, too, because I made what I thought would be read as a friendly gesture, and was attacked for it. I know why Armorvil thinks the way he does, and I regret acting the way I did, but I thought we'd made amends, and this leaves me confused.

I don't want to continue this, so I'll follow Sl1982's cue and leave it at that.
 
I don't know about the fake member part, who people perceive is behind my posts is entirely up to them. With that said, I was a little angry but I just wanted to know the motives behind the wording in your post...

No harm done, I often blow things out of proportion, when you say it was random you give me no reason not to believe you.. :-[.

I will drop the issue, sorry for making you angry...
 
One final message from me on this matter, and I'll also give it a rest  ;)

Bosola just likes to be patronizing /give lessons / have that "holier than thou" attitude. This is how he is. Just don't mind him.
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Not really. I just flamed you once when I was pissed off at work. It was unfair and unpleasant, but I don't think it reflects on how I really act and think normally. I hope not, anyway.
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My time to apologize, then. Truth is, I wasn't only refering to what happened between us in the past, but about my feelings after reading many of your posts here. Yes, you are a clever and competent person, but I *felt* that you were lacking humility somehow. Looks like I was wrong though - hence my apologies. I know that you're a great person, and I love all of your contributions (and even though I'm working on my mod, I'm still looking forward to Rebirth). It's just that sometimes you don't come off as the kindest person there is (compared to some other great guys like Sithlord, Kranmer, NFITC1, Gjoerulv, Titeguy, Pyrozen... ...sorry for those I didn't list, but there are too many :P), and I had to get this off my chest.

I know why Armorvil thinks the way he does, and I regret acting the way I did, but I thought we'd made amends, and this leaves me confused.
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And we did. So, as I said, I apologize for this. I guess that what confuses me, is the fact that we don't express ourselves the same way... ...In your situation with Mako, I'd have been quick to dispel any confusion, in a quick and concise manner, with adding words of apologies in-between. Maybe you see my way of interacting with others as some kind of weakness, I don't know - but I feel it is the right thing to do when dealing with people in general.

Anyways, everyone seems to be apologizing, so all is well that ends well ;D
 
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Can I apologize too? I didn't do anything, but I'm feeling left out  :-\
 
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