[FF9 PC] Moguri Mod update 8.2 (LIVE ON OFFICIAL SITE)

snouz · May 6, 2020

Could some people download this updated file https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YyOwu6Q_OvXcu2VAOeXl91IaBCQxbMSl with moving seas and redone water on the worldmap and tell me what they think?

Caledor · May 7, 2020

Hmm i couldn't really tell the difference (disc 4). Can you also upload some before/after pictures?

snouz · May 7, 2020

Hmm i couldn't really tell the difference (disc 4). Can you also upload some before/after pictures?

I've just responded to a user on reddit, I'll post my reply here:

So how I did it, the water is already animated, it's got 6 frames for the little white spots. But the rests stays static. The original tiles are 32x32px, and I upscaled them x4 with Waifu2x. To add wiggling, like water like feature, I added 1% noise to the texture BEFORE I upscaled, so every frame is a tiny bit different. The effect is quite natural I think.

I've made a quick gif:

A before pic: https://i.imgur.com/Ylk0LGJ.jpg

To get this soft look, I upscaled twice: 1) waifu2x x2 with high softening 2) waifu x2 with max softening.

m_artn · May 7, 2020

The moving seas is hard to imagine in just a Picture...

I've testet it and i think it looks good and sticks close to the original.
However I have the feeling that the checkered pattern of the textures is more obviously with the moving sea.
Don't know if this could be optimised.

I would still use the moving sea anyway but it might be good if this is made optional with the Moguri installer.

Without moving seas:

With moving seas:

snouz · May 7, 2020

Yeah the pattern is not great, but I have very little control there, as the there are 4 different squares that can be in any order, any direction, mirrored, so any given border can be next to any other 32 other border.
The only 2 solutions:
1) making the border pretty uniform (partially what I did with desert patterns) but it creates an unnatural pattern.
2) adding a lot of noise, but that mainly works with noisy textures like grass or sand.

Unfortunately, making it an option is not an option, as you can't change individual files inside p0data3. But if there's a popular demand for static seas, I'll make an optional download or making it even more subtle.

vitgil · May 7, 2020

Unfortunately, making it an option is not an option, as you can't change individual files inside p0data3.

I already wrote that UnityEX can do this. I play with your Moguri beta 8 v3, Alternate Fantasy 5.0 and Scaled Battle UI. Everything works.

Koha · May 7, 2020

Unfortunately, making it an option is not an option, as you can't change individual files inside p0data3. But if there's a popular demand for static seas, I'll make an optional download or making it even more subtle.

And it is not possible to prepare 2 different "p0data3.bin"? One with and the other without, and the installer is responsible for pasting one or the other. They are only 100Mb, 200 with 2 different versions.

Tirlititi · May 7, 2020

I was thinking of an update of Memoria to handle mods better. It wouldn't be so hard to do and it would allow to make things like that optional very easily (no need to use UnityEX).

alexd · May 7, 2020

I already wrote that UnityEX can do this. I play with your Moguri beta 8 v3, Alternate Fantasy 5.0 and Scaled Battle UI. Everything works.

why don't you upload it

Sustein · May 7, 2020

Hi everyone,

Thank you Snouz for you work and dedication.

I have a question about the patch:
-If we have the last moguri version installed do we have to uninstall it or just replace the files (even the Assembly-CSharp.dll ?)

Why I'm asking that, because I noticed some conflict when I replaced these files with your patch, like some blur effect on objects, for at Alexendria the grass before the gate are blurred, but in the moguri 7.0 not.

Do I'm doing something wrong ?

Thank you

Doom Oyster · May 7, 2020

I think it looks good but wish the seams were less apparent.

ivanfuhr000 · May 8, 2020

Hi Snouz
Congrats for the mod, it's looking really great.
I have 1 question. I have the sound fix v2.1 and v2.2 but they replace the resources.assets and assemblysharp files. Are you planning to include this fixes in the mod? or upload a modification of this files to make the mods compatible?. If not, do you know what sould i do to have this sound fixes in my game. I ask you because i couldn't find the sound fix mod page to ask.
Thank you very much

Doom Oyster · May 8, 2020

I have the same question - is there an easy way to merge your changes to resources.assets with sound fix 2.2?

fenrrir18 · May 8, 2020

Thanks snouz for your amazing work. Looking forward for its completion.

Hi Snouz
Congrats for the mod, it's looking really great.
I have 1 question. I have the sound fix v2.1 and v2.2 but they replace the resources.assets and assemblysharp files. Are you planning to include this fixes in the mod? or upload a modification of this files to make the mods compatible?. If not, do you know what sould i do to have this sound fixes in my game. I ask you because i couldn't find the sound fix mod page to ask.
Thank you very much

Can you share the sound fix? I've been looking for it but can't find it anywhere?

snouz · May 8, 2020

I'm trying to understand the whole "sound fix mod" situation. After a bit of investigation with google and wayback machine, here's what I gathered.

If i understand correctly, there's one mod that fixes some bugs (in AssemblyCSharp.dll), as well as replaces sounds with better/original ones (in p0data or resources files -> would be easy to combine)
But the author has allegedly caused some trouble here and there:
Banned from Nexus - all other links link there. No luck with wayback machine.
Their reddit profile is u/dclem2 and they're still active
Still a post on Qhimm as Incinerator (Guest)
Deleted posts on forum eyesonff (wayback machine original post)

Apparently, the AssemblyCSharp part of it was added to Memoria by zePilot and will thus be part of 8.0
But for the "replacing all sounds" part, I don't have my hand on it. I don't know if there's a way to convince the modder to allow us to download and add it to Moguri.

@ivanfuhr000 if you have the files, could you share it with us on google drive?

Sustein · May 8, 2020

No one to answer my question?

Should the assembly file be replaced?

Is it normal that some backgrounds are blurred more than in the old version?

Yoxoy · May 8, 2020

No one to answer my question?

Should the assembly file be replaced?

Is it normal that some backgrounds are blurred more than in the old version?

I think you did the same mistake as myself and others.

From the first post :

IF YOU HAVE MOGURI INSTALLED (not required!)
1) If you installed it before 2020-04-2, uninstall and re-install Moguri again (SquareEnix pushed a Steam update that temporarily broke the game and Moguri)
2) Extract the content of StreamingAssets in \Program Files (x86)\Moguri Mod\StreamingAssets\
3) Extract \x64\FF9_Data\resources.assets & \x64\FF9_Data\sharedassets2.assets to SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY IX\x64\FF9_Data\
but DON'T replace Assembly-CSharp.dll

If you have moguri mod already, you have to replace de files in the Moguri mod folder, and not the game folder. And you don't have to touch the Assembly-CSharp.dll .

I'm trying to understand the whole "sound fix mod" situation. After a bit of investigation with google and wayback machine, here's what I gathered.

If i understand correctly, there's one mod that fixes some bugs (in AssemblyCSharp.dll), as well as replaces sounds with better/original ones (in p0data or resources files -> would be easy to combine)
But the author has allegedly caused some trouble here and there:
Banned from Nexus - all other links link there. No luck with wayback machine.
Their reddit profile is u/dclem2 and they're still active
Still a post on Qhimm as Incinerator (Guest)
Deleted posts on forum eyesonff (wayback machine original post)

Apparently, the AssemblyCSharp part of it was added to Memoria by zePilot and will thus be part of 8.0
But for the "replacing all sounds" part, I don't have my hand on it. I don't know if there's a way to convince the modder to allow us to download and add it to Moguri.

@ivanfuhr000 if you have the files, could you share it with us on google drive?

There is a Assembly-CSharp.dll for "Music loop bug" on the post from ZePilot about Moguri Mod on Steam. Maybe it's linked ?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377840/discussions/0/1741105805743188237

snouz · May 8, 2020

No one to answer my question?

Should the assembly file be replaced?

Is it normal that some backgrounds are blurred more than in the old version?

~~If you have Moguri installed and beta 3 on top, don't replace assemblycsharp, only bin files in the moguri folder, and assets file in FFIX folder. There's an install guide.~~ answered above
If some backgrounds are more blurred, you should screenshot them (I recommend geenshot and imgur for hosting) and I'll try to improve on the render. For some, I combined several renders and tried to achieve the best result, so it's possible. Also, I've slightly blurred some parts to achieve a better depth (like skies). I'm encouraging everyone to nitpick and send screenshots. This is a beta, it'll help.

Sustein · May 8, 2020

I think you did the same mistake as myself and others.

From the first post :

IF YOU HAVE MOGURI INSTALLED (not required!)
1) If you installed it before 2020-04-2, uninstall and re-install Moguri again (SquareEnix pushed a Steam update that temporarily broke the game and Moguri)
2) Extract the content of StreamingAssets in \Program Files (x86)\Moguri Mod\StreamingAssets\
3) Extract \x64\FF9_Data\resources.assets & \x64\FF9_Data\sharedassets2.assets to SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY IX\x64\FF9_Data\
but DON'T replace Assembly-CSharp.dll

If you have moguri mod already, you have to replace de files in the Moguri mod folder, and not the game folder. And you don't have to touch the Assembly-CSharp.dll .

There is a Assembly-CSharp.dll for "Music loop bug" on the post from ZePilot about Moguri Mod on Steam. Maybe it's linked ?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377840/discussions/0/1741105805743188237

Thank you very much sir, I will try this and notify if it works

snouz · May 8, 2020

There is a Assembly-CSharp.dll for "Music loop bug" on the post from ZePilot about Moguri Mod on Steam. Maybe it's linked ?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377840/discussions/0/1741105805743188237

zePilot submitted the fix in June to Memoria, gave the link in July for the Moguri file with the fix, then Albeoris added the fix to the main Memoria in September. The next update will use the last Memoria build, so it'll be included.