[FF9 PC] Moguri Mod update 8.2 (LIVE ON OFFICIAL SITE)

Sustein · May 8, 2020

I replaced the streaming assets in moguri folder and the x64 in the ff9 folder, but I got the same problem, I will say that on almost all screens the resolution and the sharpness of the image has been decreased, I don't know if it's intentional, here's a comparison link https://imgur.com/a/lMQ6jKp

Sustein · May 8, 2020

Here another comparison sorry for the double post https://imgur.com/a/I4EkaOC

Messahira · May 8, 2020

Bravo Snouz pour la sortie de la V3 !

Une question :
Est ce que la V3 inclus les font "original" (ou similaire) et le 16/9 ? Ou faut il toujours installer la 7.0.1 pour pouvoir profiter de ces deux features ?

Merci à toi, et bon courage pour la suite !

Sustein · May 8, 2020

The scene with Bach at the beginning also has a problem, the table is shifted and he is more out of the screen.

Also what I was saying about the grass in Alexandria

https://imgur.com/a/Q3J1nps

Neodoris · May 8, 2020

Hi Snouz
Congrats for the mod, it's looking really great.
I have 1 question. I have the sound fix v2.1 and v2.2 but they replace the resources.assets and assemblysharp files. Are you planning to include this fixes in the mod? or upload a modification of this files to make the mods compatible?. If not, do you know what sould i do to have this sound fixes in my game. I ask you because i couldn't find the sound fix mod page to ask.
Thank you very much

Could you please upload sound fix 2.2?
I only have the version 2.1, which can be downloaded here:
http://dl.free.fr/getfile.pl?file=/LQl8YcOZ
https://www31.zippyshare.com/v/OGaqIwsV/file.html
https://1fichier.com/?njvfnuhdytf9a30g1kt2

Thank you very much!

ivanfuhr000 · May 8, 2020

Thanks snouz for your amazing work. Looking forward for its completion.
Can you share the sound fix? I've been looking for it but can't find it anywhere?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12Ubq7hnD8t3_FMb4nUw_AOlRAAa2eNQC

Here it is.

ivanfuhr000 · May 8, 2020

I'm trying to understand the whole "sound fix mod" situation. After a bit of investigation with google and wayback machine, here's what I gathered.

If i understand correctly, there's one mod that fixes some bugs (in AssemblyCSharp.dll), as well as replaces sounds with better/original ones (in p0data or resources files -> would be easy to combine)
But the author has allegedly caused some trouble here and there:
Banned from Nexus - all other links link there. No luck with wayback machine.
Their reddit profile is u/dclem2 and they're still active
Still a post on Qhimm as Incinerator (Guest)
Deleted posts on forum eyesonff (wayback machine original post)

Apparently, the AssemblyCSharp part of it was added to Memoria by zePilot and will thus be part of 8.0
But for the "replacing all sounds" part, I don't have my hand on it. I don't know if there's a way to convince the modder to allow us to download and add it to Moguri.

@ivanfuhr000 if you have the files, could you share it with us on google drive?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12Ubq7hnD8t3_FMb4nUw_AOlRAAa2eNQC

Sure, there it is.

fenrrir18 · May 8, 2020

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12Ubq7hnD8t3_FMb4nUw_AOlRAAa2eNQC

Here it is.

Cheers mate. Thanks for uploading the sound fix files.

Xenogears · May 8, 2020

I'm trying to understand the whole "sound fix mod" situation. After a bit of investigation with google and wayback machine, here's what I gathered.

If i understand correctly, there's one mod that fixes some bugs (in AssemblyCSharp.dll), as well as replaces sounds with better/original ones (in p0data or resources files -> would be easy to combine)
But the author has allegedly caused some trouble here and there:
Banned from Nexus - all other links link there. No luck with wayback machine.
Their reddit profile is u/dclem2 and they're still active
Still a post on Qhimm as Incinerator (Guest)
Deleted posts on forum eyesonff (wayback machine original post)

Apparently, the AssemblyCSharp part of it was added to Memoria by zePilot and will thus be part of 8.0
But for the "replacing all sounds" part, I don't have my hand on it. I don't know if there's a way to convince the modder to allow us to download and add it to Moguri.

@ivanfuhr000 if you have the files, could you share it with us on google drive?

Maybe it will help with something
https://yadi.sk/d/Q6Uk40n35-AVeA

Enridonn · May 8, 2020

Here are some subtle errors i found with the edges in this scene

Also, on regards of the animated sea, I think the same as others have stated, it's pretty cool but it makes the sea to look like checkers.

Caledor · May 8, 2020

zePilot submitted the fix in June to Memoria, gave the link in July for the Moguri file with the fix, then Albeoris added the fix to the main Memoria in September. The next update will use the last Memoria build, so it'll be included.

So when the Rework goes out of beta it won't work on stock FF9 like now? It'll require the Memoria engine like the Moguri Mod?

snouz · May 9, 2020

Thanks all for the file. Thanks to Doom Oyster, I got my hand on a fix for missing monster death sounds by Tirliliti, who kindly accepted I include it. I will avoid using the parts of the "sound fix" by /u/dclem2 that are not already fixed by Tirlititi and Memoria, as dclem2 apparently doesn't want to be part of this community, but if someone wants to recreate the missing parts...

So when the Rework goes out of beta it won't work on stock FF9 like now? It'll require the Memoria engine like the Moguri Mod?

Well my goal is to build on top of the existing project. The final update (combined and compiled by zePilot when all of this is done) will include Memoria.
BTW, Albeoris told me he just published a new Memoria version, and he fixed, between other things:
-the problem I reported of english only place names --> now I'll have to do a proper upscale of german, italian and spanish!
-crashes on battles !

About the moving water:
I've done a test with adding a plain color at 60% opacity at tile borders, but that's worse: https://i.imgur.com/lLTfxtS.jpg
I'll try adding noise instead and try to find the best balance.

About blurry backgrounds, I'll have to test with Memoria, as I think the rendering changes a bit.
The scenes with bach is surprising. I haven't tested it in widescreen. Is it fixed when you switch to not-widescreen?

EDIT: the Memoria update from this morning is crashing on startup. I've reported it and waiting for a fix.

Qb09 · May 9, 2020

Thanks all for the file. Thanks to Doom Oyster, I got my hand on a fix for missing monster death sounds by Tirliliti, who kindly accepted I include it. I will avoid using the parts of the "sound fix" by /u/dclem2 that are not already fixed by Tirlititi and Memoria, as dclem2 apparently doesn't want to be part of this community, but if someone wants to recreate the missing parts...
Well my goal is to build on top of the existing project. The final update (combined and compiled by zePilot when all of this is done) will include Memoria.
BTW, Albeoris told me he just published a new Memoria version, and he fixed, between other things:
-the problem I reported of english only place names --> now I'll have to do a proper upscale of german, italian and spanish!
-crashes on battles !

About the moving water:
I've done a test with adding a plain color at 60% opacity at tile borders, but that's worse: https://i.imgur.com/lLTfxtS.jpg
I'll try adding noise instead and try to find the best balance.

About blurry backgrounds, I'll have to test with Memoria, as I think the rendering changes a bit.
The scenes with bach is surprising. I haven't tested it in widescreen. Is it fixed when you switch to not-widescreen?

First of all, thank you for the amazing work you do, I always wanted to play ffix but wanted to play it in the best way I could. Now with your and others great efforts is the best time to play the game.

I only have one question, I wanted to install the latest version of memoria along with Moguri 8 Beta, is this possible? if yes I would really appreciate you could tell me how.

Thanks again.

Stiria · May 9, 2020

Hi there Snouz!

First of all, I want to thank you so much for further improving the Moguri Mod. ZePilot has done an amazing job, and yet you managed to improve it and bring it to perfection. FFIX is my favourite game of all time so it really means a lot.

I started today a new game of FFIX with your mod and I have found one bug where the characters end up behind the fence that's part of the background. It's the (kind of useless) location right when you get out of the Evil Forest and when you don't go straight to Ice Caverns:

https://imgur.com/IXmc9sN

I will keep you updated if I find something else!

snouz · May 10, 2020

I only have one question, I wanted to install the latest version of memoria along with Moguri 8 Beta, is this possible? if yes I would really appreciate you could tell me how.

Last version doesn't work right now, your best bet if you want memoria would be to install moguri 7 and follow the instruction in the install guide I provided.

I started today a new game of FFIX with your mod and I have found one bug where the characters end up behind the fence that's part of the background. It's the (kind of useless) location right when you get out of the Evil Forest and when you don't go straight to Ice Caverns:
https://imgur.com/IXmc9sN

Ah good eye! I forgot to revert back the change from a depth test. I was trying to fix the chest going in front of the post. Fixed.

@Caledor, I managed to fix another depth bug from PSX: the gates in the desert palace that are half closed, half open.
It's a bit more tricky:

in field Palace/Dungeon 2
in Main_init (beginning of the function:
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 18, 0, 0, 500 )

after " case 9530:" and after " case 9815:"
SetTilePositionEx( 2, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 3, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 4, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 5, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 6, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 7, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 8, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 9, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, -500 )

In Function Zidane_13
replace:
ShowTile( 2, 0 )
SetObjectLogicalSize( 14, 20, 30 )
InitWalk( )
Walk( -1983, 2306 )
InitWalk( )

with:
ShowTile( 2, 0 )
SetTilePositionEx( 3, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 4, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 5, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 6, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 7, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 8, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 9, 0, 0, -500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, -500 )
SetObjectLogicalSize( 14, 20, 30 )
InitWalk( )
Walk( -1983, 2306 )
SetTilePositionEx( 3, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 4, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 5, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 6, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 7, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 8, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 9, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, 500 )
InitWalk( )

In each main character _16:
add before " WaitTurn( )"
SetTilePositionEx( 2, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 3, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 4, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 5, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 6, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 7, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 8, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 9, 0, 0, 200 )
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, 200 )

This will re-arrange depth of doors so that no bit gets in front of characters and that they don't appear in front of the texture, while putting the closed doors layers in front of the open one.

Caledor · May 10, 2020

Thanks snouz! Just tried and it works flawlessly except for one case: when frogcid goes out of the minigame and the party regroups, the doors will appear in front of the leading character when the goes near them. Obviously the issue is fixed by exiting and re-entering the room, but to fix that scene as well:

In Main_Loop near the end, after "ShowTile( 9, 1 )", i added:
SetTilePositionEx( 2, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 3, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 4, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 5, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 6, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 7, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 8, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 9, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, 500 )

Kirani · May 10, 2020

Hate to be a bother, but I'm having an issue getting Moguri and this new version working together.

With V3
https://postimg.cc/gallery/ScGb70W

Without V3 (Moguri only)
https://postimg.cc/gallery/xqcK95q

I'm judging by the ice cavern picture, you can see once V3 is installed, Moguri doesn't seem to work on it (but I do love the changes you've made! The open world looks so much nicer!

I haven't updated the sharp dll because the readme says not to if I'm using Moguri already. The assets files have been updated and the rest have been put into the Moguri folder.

snouz · May 10, 2020

Thanks snouz! Just tried and it works flawlessly except for one case: when frogcid goes out of the minigame and the party regroups, the doors will appear in front of the leading character when the goes near them. Obviously the issue is fixed by exiting and re-entering the room, but to fix that scene as well:

In Main_Loop near the end, after "ShowTile( 9, 1 )", i added:
SetTilePositionEx( 2, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 3, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 4, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 5, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 6, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 7, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 8, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 9, 0, 0, 500 )
SetTilePositionEx( 13, 0, 0, 500 )

Ah thanks! I'm trusting you on this one and adding the fix. I've completely redone this field visually (regenerated, fixed here and there), it's been a difficult one, but I think it's almost perfect now.

BTW Al has fixed the crash of his latest Memoria version. Testing it right now. Then I'll work on water texture and worldmap objects, then I'll be ready for BETA V4.
EDIT: now the Memoria patcher runs but the game won't launch.

Caledor · May 10, 2020

During my last FF9 run i saved in a different slot every time i had the chance. Do you think it'd be useful to you for testing purposes? if so i can upload it.

snouz · May 10, 2020

During my last FF9 run i saved in a different slot every time i had the chance. Do you think it'd be useful to you for testing purposes? if so i can upload it.

That's nice of you but I did exactly the same as I progressed !