[FF9 PC] Moguri Mod update 8.2 (LIVE ON OFFICIAL SITE)

Lykon · May 13, 2020

^^ On a related note, I was going to ask about this: The developer's conversion from the psx to steam gave the original steam version an odd color space where everything is de-contrasted (darkness levels 0-16 don't exist, everything is 16 - 255). And the color balance is off. To correct this in sweetFX reshade:

#define Levels_black_point 16 //[0 to 255] The black point is the new black - literally. Everything darker than this will become completely black.
#define Levels_white_point 255 //[0 to 255] The new white point. Everything brighter than this becomes completely white.
#define RGB_Lift float3(1.000, 1.000, 0.950) //[0.000 to 2.000] Adjust shadows for Red, Green and Blue.
#define RGB_Gamma float3(1.045, 1.020, 1.000) //[0.000 to 2.000] Adjust midtones for Red, Green and Blue
#define RGB_Gain float3(1.045, 1.020, 1.000) //[0.000 to 2.000] Adjust highlights for Red, Green and Blue

Is the rework trying to correct for the color space or keep it the way it was (necessitating reshade)?

Are you talking about video specifically or the game in general? Because there is a huge color difference between video backgrounds (mbg***.bytes videos) and the corresponding swap to static backgrounds in cutscenes. The difference is even more clear because of the (good) work on backgroud upscaling (but it not really because of colors).

By the way I have uploaded the first version of the 4k video upscaling using super-resolution: https://mega.nz/file/MZEmna4S#6snFIa6rDITg7fR4ntcnwy9UKeo8ktSyWXR8-zjBxS0
(archive password is qhimm)

It doesn't really solve the color mismatch issue yet, but it's nice on 4k monitors compared to the normal bicubic upscaling. The difference on 1080p monitors is way more subtle because of what I mentioned in the previous post.
For time reasons I've only upscaled the first 2 FMV videos, the last FMV video and every mbg video. I'd like to discuss more about this with you guys before committing further.

snouz · May 13, 2020

@Lykon Would you add me on steam or something? Video upscaling was my next project after bug fixing, especially those 16 where there are 3D objects (those that usually transition from a background). I managed to get a decent result, but I put it aside to do the main mod.
I'd be all up for us collaborating on that! I'm downloading your last link.

@Nuraya it's fixed in v4

@Doom Oyster I've never tried Reshade, but I will. I never noticed a color difference with the PSX version though.

snouz · May 13, 2020

If there are C# programmers here, there are some bugs in Memoria that I think Albeoris would like some help with.
https://github.com/Albeoris/Memoria/issues

Enridonn · May 13, 2020

I recall this mountain was improved with your beta, but it isn't applied in my game?? Image 1

Also, here is a small error when you walk behind this: Image 2 Image 3

Lykon · May 13, 2020

@Lykon Would you add me on steam or something?

Sent

Video upscaling was my next project after bug fixing, especially those 16 where there are 3D objects (those that usually transition from a background). I managed to get a decent result, but I put it aside to do the main mod.
I'd be all up for us collaborating on that! I'm downloading your last link.

I'd love that and I'm curious about your test result. Yesterday I wasn't really able to fine tune the algorithm as much as I wanted (maybe my workflow was not optimal given the fact that those 16 videos are already upscaled using a really noisy bicubic).

Lykon · May 14, 2020

Uploading some test videos after a long chat with snouz yesterday.

The videos are meant for test purpose at this stage. The password for the archives is "lykon"

In the folders there are always 4 videos and the names should be enough to indicate the method differences. 15 fps videos only have super-resolution applied. 30 and 60 fps videos also have DAIN for frame interpolation.

The test videos I worked on for this test are mbg101 and mbg116. The files are already in the correct format.

https://mega.nz/file/EQFHQCqT#wHkao7ZTtRKLEQBmyZTYlmYznPaYuvgM09eqTFMdOLg

https://mega.nz/file/UB0hxQQZ#5xDMZYGMa87GwC4CkqqEMio_jYEgmei3YfpclzPBBzQ

m_artn · May 14, 2020

I like the 60fps videos :-D

snouz · May 14, 2020

I've moved discussion about FMVs to https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/14020/ if you want to take part!

eefatifa · May 14, 2020

Hello, I've tried to run Moguri along with Memoria, but many areas are glitched out and the graphics are messed up.

What I did:
- installed moguri
-installed memoria

The graphics are broken though, like 'split', as if my GPU was broken. So I had to uninstall/remove memoria. Is there a way to get v4 and memoria working simultaneously? Thank you.

What it looks like:

EDIT: Think it works now with tile set to 64!

eefatifa · May 15, 2020

Sorry for posting twice in a row, but as far as I can tell this version of Moguri doesn't have memoria built in, right? I couldn't find memoria.ini anywhere without installing memoria separetely, I am asking so that I don't have 2 memorias installed/running for no reason.

Thanks!

snouz · May 15, 2020

Sorry for posting twice in a row, but as far as I can tell this version of Moguri doesn't have memoria built in, right? I couldn't find memoria.ini anywhere without installing memoria separetely, I am asking so that I don't have 2 memorias installed/running for no reason.

Thanks!

It doesn't, you can download the latest memoria version there: https://github.com/Albeoris/Memoria/releases.
His widescreen fix doesn't work yet and if you see bugs with it, report them and I'll give the message.

decency_breakin3 · May 16, 2020

snouz, does the beta contain the orchestra tracks music upgrade? Just Curious if its available to people who just hard copied the beta over their install of the game.

snouz · May 16, 2020

snouz, does the beta contain the orchestra tracks music upgrade? Just Curious if its available to people who just hard copied the beta over their install of the game.

Nope, but you can find that by installing Moguri 7, it's a file called \StreamingAssets\p0data61 that contains the music.
I did not change it and Tbh I don't use it and asked zePilot if he would consider changing the name to "alternate" orchestral music, because I find "Enhanced" pretty misleading (when I was a new user, I thought it'd be faithful to the original, but it's completely re-imagined)

eefatifa · May 16, 2020

Widescreen kinda randomly works for me, like in the open world it works but not when I enter towns etc. So I guess it's better to wait for an update to your moguri or Memoria? Since I assume it's a compatibility issue between them.

Thank you for your work.

snouz · May 16, 2020

Widescreen kinda randomly works for me, like in the open world it works but not when I enter towns etc. So I guess it's better to wait for an update to your moguri or Memoria? Since I assume it's a compatibility issue between them.

Thank you for your work.

It's not a compatible issue, it's a memoria bug issue. You can follow here https://github.com/Albeoris/Memoria/issues. I've given a list of exclusions to Albeoris, but I'm waiting for him to fix the widescreen function.

eefatifa · May 16, 2020

Great, thank you.

asqwzx · May 16, 2020

Quick question about your mod (amazing btw), if I were to use alternate fantasy, what would it erase from your mod ?
Thank you

mushii · May 16, 2020

Here's something I saw in your screenshots. Dunno if you fixed it already or not. Thank you so much for your hard work by the way!

SummitBreaker · May 16, 2020

While playing through V4 I noticed some sound issues, some of which have strayed from the original PS1 version of FFIX

1.) In battle Reflect used to have it's own distinct sound effect when a spell would "bounce" off the character back to the other side of the battlefield. In the steam version (as well as the HD console re-release ports) the sound of the spell that was cast plays when its reflected and then a second time when it actually happens. I.E. if Vivi has auto-reflect and casts Flare on himself. Flare sound effect will play during the reflect animation (instead of the old reflect sound from PS1) and then the Flare sound effect will play again immediately as it hits the opponent.

2.) In the final cut-scene before the final Necron battle the music is playing 2 tracks instead of just one. It plays much slower versions of the music for that segment of dialogue and the Necron battle theme making the songs overlap each other. It's very jarring and it causes that music to not loop after a while during the battle. Important to note I'm using most recent version of Moguri that is using the "enhanced" music so my p0 file might just need to be re-installed, but if anyone else can confirm this is happening to them as well that would be awesome!

This may not be the proper forum to bring this up, but I noticed the death sounds were added to the V4 update so I thought it might apply.

I also need to double check some lanterns on the hilda guard's bridge background (zorn and thorn scene with the blackmage steering) that looked a little strange in the background, but that was versions ago when I saw that scene so it may have already been fixed. When I get a chance to pull up that image again for V4 if it's still there I'll post an image. Hope any of that helps!

IwanttoplaymodurrandAF · May 17, 2020

Yo snouz,

great work, cant wait for version 8.0

Actually, thats exactly my problem: I really want to play this mod with Alternate Fantasy, however as you stated it's not compatible yet with AF.
So my question is: Do you have a rough ETA for version 8.0? Like Q/2/3/4 2020 or maybe even next year ?

Thanks. Much love :mrgreen: