[FF9 PC] Moguri Mod update 8.2 (LIVE ON OFFICIAL SITE)

takver · Apr 24, 2020

Well... I must have done something wrong then.
Pasting the new files over the ones in the game folder where Moguri was installed didn't activate them without your new "Assembly-CSharp.dll'.
I'll look into it, do some tests, and come back with news about this.

I had a similar problem initially, too. I have Moguri installed and whenever I extracted the 'Assembly-CSharp.dll' from snouz's rar file to the game's installation folder, the backgrounds reverted back to the old Moguri mod, while snouz's rar files worked on the old Moguri's 'Assembly-CSharp.dll' file but reintroduced side borders and weird controller issues.

Turns out I had Moguri mod installed on two separate hard drives for some strange reason (probably from previous installations) and was extracting snouz's p0data files to the wrong hard drive's Moguri mod location. lol

All fixed now and everything is working perfectly including the backgrounds, NPCs, worldmap textures, etc.

Said it several times already, but thanks so much for all of the effort snouz! Game looks absolutely incredible.

snouz · Apr 24, 2020

Hi all, thanks for the feedback so far !

Just woke up, here's my schedule for the day:
I'll include a how-to for both when moguri is already installed and when it's not. I'll also include everything in one big download, it'll be easier.
Maybe I should make a FAQ and cleanup the first post.
About the title screen, you'll be happy to know I worked on this and some other other elements, and that's part of a file I'm going to share soon. Still a bit of work on this one, as it includes both wordmaps (the one displayed with select before and after getting the mappemonde)
Right now, I'm working on updating the battle textures.

Don't hesitate to keep sending screenshots of things you think could be improved! I screenshot everything for my todo list

e2zippo · Apr 24, 2020

Would this mod be compatible with moguri rework snouz?

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy9/mods/11?tab=files

There's a checkbox when installing it asking if your're using moguri.
Are you using the same file structure as moguri?

Thanks!

snouz · Apr 24, 2020

Would this mod be compatible with moguri rework snouz?

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy9/mods/11?tab=files

There's a checkbox when installing it asking if your're using moguri.
Are you using the same file structure as moguri?

Thanks!

It should still be compatible.
What you need to do:
-Install normal moguri
-Only replace StreamingAssets files in the moguri install folder (program_files\Moguri mod\)
-install the ui mod.

I was unaware that there was a recent update to make it work with memoria. Does this mod work out of the box or do you need to tweak things? I've sent a steam friend request to discuss.

e2zippo · Apr 24, 2020

It should still be compatible.
What you need to do:
-Install normal moguri
-Only replace StreamingAssets files in the moguri install folder (program_files\Moguri mod\)
-install the ui mod.

I was unaware that there was a recent update to make it work with memoria. Does this mod work out of the box or do you need to tweak things? I've sent a steam friend request to discuss.

I tried installing it but I messed up the options somehow, making everything look really weird! It would be so awesome to get the PSX UI in conjunction with your rework of Moguri!

Hopefully he'll respond and you can work something out to get this working! It's a good time to be a FFIX fan! :-D

takver · Apr 24, 2020

It should still be compatible.
What you need to do:
-Install normal moguri
-Only replace StreamingAssets files in the moguri install folder (program_files\Moguri mod\)
-install the ui mod.

I was unaware that there was a recent update to make it work with memoria. Does this mod work out of the box or do you need to tweak things? I've sent a steam friend request to discuss.

I just checked it out and it works out of the box (kinda). It introduces and has a few issues though, namely:

- It disables widescreen by default, requiring one to edit the memoria.ini file and re-enable it
- Battle animations are vastly sped up as a result of the mod increasing battle animations to 30fps. This also needs to be manually edited in memoria back down to 15fps
- The battle UI is quite tiny and is not properly scaled to the rest of the screen. I'm playing at 1080p so I can't imagine that being an issue. Don't see any option to edit the UI size in memoria either
- Cursor tends to disappear occasionally in menus, most evidently when given the option to overwrite an existing save. The mod creator says they're aware of this and are looking for a fix
- Biggest issue for me is that it introduces a severe delay between screen transitions that appears to last anywhere between 3-10 seconds. This is affecting screen transitions, and both entering and exiting battles. I've tried this with both the original Moguri, your rework, and the Scaled UI mod and can confirm that this delay is only appearing after installing the Scaled UI mod.

Another user on Nexus is also reporting what appears to be a game-breaking bug in the fight against the Plant Brain after installing the mod but I haven't checked that out to confirm as of yet

So yeah, I wouldn't personally recommend using the Scaled UI mod right now unless you or ZePilOt are able to have it implemented with Moguri in a stable state.

snouz · Apr 24, 2020

I just checked it out and it works out of the box (kinda). It introduces and has a few issues though, namely:

- It disables widescreen by default, requiring one to edit the memoria.ini file and re-enable it
- Battle animations are vastly sped up as a result of the mod increasing battle animations to 30fps. This also needs to be manually edited in memoria back down to 15fps
- The battle UI is quite tiny and is not properly scaled to the rest of the screen. I'm playing at 1080p so I can't imagine that being an issue. Don't see any option to edit the UI size in memoria either
- Cursor tends to disappear occasionally in menus, most evidently when given the option to overwrite an existing save. The mod creator says they're aware of this and are looking for a fix
- Biggest issue for me is that it introduces a severe delay between screen transitions that appears to last anywhere between 3-10 seconds. This is affecting screen transitions, and both entering and exiting battles. I've tried this with both the original Moguri, your rework, and the Scaled UI mod and can confirm that this delay is only appearing after installing the Scaled UI mod.

Another user on Nexus is also reporting what appears to be a game-breaking bug in the fight against the Plant Brain after installing the mod but I haven't checked that out to confirm as of yet

So yeah, I wouldn't personally recommend using the Scaled UI mod right now unless you or ZePilOt are able to have it implemented with Moguri in a stable state.

mmh, that's still a lot of problems TBH. Issues related to memoria.ini shouldn't be a big deal, but the loading screens of 3-10 seconds is not great, as well as the non-scaling and game breaking bug.

Pilda · Apr 24, 2020

Garnet is baked in background in one scene and it looks quite bad. I think you could replace her with a better picture of her from a screenshot. She is lying there so maybe from a screenshot from battle when she is unconscious?

Here is the scene with the baked Garnet: https://i.imgur.com/OhYftnR.jpg
Here is a screenshot with laying Garnet: https://i.imgur.com/YZTMcmu.jpg

snouz · Apr 24, 2020

Garnet is baked in background in one scene and it looks quite bad. I think you could replace her with a better picture of her from a screenshot. She is lying there so maybe from a screenshot from battle when she is unconscious?

Here is the scene with the baked Garnet: https://i.imgur.com/OhYftnR.jpg
Here is a screenshot with laying Garnet: https://i.imgur.com/YZTMcmu.jpg

Almost forgot this one. There are 5 background with people on them (the 4 others are all Lindblum Commercial district), and I've contemplated ways to replace these pixels with actual renders of 3D models. But I need to find suitable screenshots.
If someone manages to use something like Noesis to export some renders in specific poses, like they did with FF8, that would be so much better.

Pilda · Apr 24, 2020

This background has two strange lines. I tried to retouch it with Spot Healing Brush and it looks a bit better. Fix it somehow, please.

https://i.imgur.com/tI7QkpY.png

Pilda · Apr 24, 2020

I think the tree here needs a fix too.

https://i.imgur.com/h7Lg0rn.png

Pilda · Apr 24, 2020

This tree is quite jaggy, dark and looks unnatural. I think it could be fixed at least a bit: https://i.imgur.com/W1HEW2U.png
Ghosts:
https://i.imgur.com/132JL7j.png
https://i.imgur.com/lOkvLKs.png
https://i.imgur.com/yEMmCld.png

snouz · Apr 24, 2020

Thanks for the feedback, I'll soften dali's skies with touches of waifu2x renders.

Note that the endgame should generally be less janky, as my techniques progressively got more efficient. I'm planning to do another pass on the beginning of the game.

Note that working a screenshot of a scrolling sky in photoshop won't accurately display what it'll look like, I'm forced to use 1 bit transparency and that creates a staircase effect between them. Same problem in Clayra. But yeah, this tree needs to be reworked to look more natural.

Deses · Apr 24, 2020

Hey! I come from Reddit and I want to help betatest!

I just downloaded the four zips and I'm going to overwrite my files now.

So far I just saw the comparisons and I love how crispy everything looks! Amazing job!!

So far I can tell that the NPC V2 zip has a typo in the compressed folder, so it won't replace the intended file. I mention this because someone less attentive might not catch that.

Deses · Apr 24, 2020

Replacing the original Assembly-CSharp.dll with yours disables all the changes from memoria.ini. Font is reverted to something else I don't want, Intro logos aren't skipped anymore, fps aren't changed...

Right, okay... I just had to do a little bit more of reading:

Assembly-CSharp.dll is the file that, modified, allows for HD backgrounds.
If you already have Moguri installed, you can ignore Assembly-CSharp.dll and replace the "p0data" files in the Moguri install folder.

I replaced the game's p0data files, not the ones from Moguri, so nothing was being applied when Moguri was enabled.

@snouz, you really have to do a FAQ / Install guide in the OP for people like me. >.<

snouz · Apr 24, 2020

I just posted another file with UI stuff, most notably the start menu and world/mist maps.

https://www.ff7catalog.com/threads/13930/
DOWNLOAD

I invite everyone to test it too and give me feedback.

Pilda · Apr 25, 2020

I found some baked people but they are very small and I am not sure if you can fix it.
https://i.imgur.com/5JrMkc8.png
https://i.imgur.com/53oeBgR.png
https://i.imgur.com/vW2n1wR.png

The grass in marches has odd black border. Can you do something with it?
https://i.imgur.com/M569LnR.png

Bugged text - https://i.imgur.com/FQGgwdD.png

Different bell than the others with a bugged animation. It is green in some parts.
https://i.imgur.com/MzZlHfn.png

Glenn Seto · Apr 25, 2020

Hi, been lurking for a long time and just want to express my gratitude for keeping the ball rolling on this modding project.

Spent the better part of the evening experimenting with various setups, vanilla, original Moguri, standalone Memoria, what font I'd like, which battle UI, etc... For now, I'll probably just stick to vanilla Steam + Snouz's files. I'm well overdue for another FF9 playthrough and I'll keep an eye out for bugs in-game and updated files here. Cheers!

snouz · Apr 25, 2020

So far I can tell that the NPC V2 zip has a typo in the compressed folder, so it won't replace the intended file. I mention this because someone less attentive might not catch that.

Argh, I'll fix that!

@snouz, you really have to do a FAQ / Install guide in the OP for people like me. >.<

Will do. I'll also make one big file, it'll be easier.

I found some baked people but they are very small and I am not sure if you can fix it.
https://i.imgur.com/5JrMkc8.png
https://i.imgur.com/53oeBgR.png
https://i.imgur.com/vW2n1wR.png

These were the scenes I was referring to. Someone with Noesis and Hades workshop knowledge might be able to help. Else, I'll try later.

The grass in marches has odd black border. Can you do something with it?
https://i.imgur.com/M569LnR.png

Couldn't find that texture in any file

I can just work on the main one and its transparency. I could try to cover it up as much as possible with the high res one, but that's just patching things up...

Bugged text - https://i.imgur.com/FQGgwdD.png

Noted.

Pilda · Apr 25, 2020

Clouds
https://i.imgur.com/12ep0uf.png

A map
https://i.imgur.com/r9r2Vad.png

A tower
https://i.imgur.com/mvIHKll.png